Lacanche Threads 31-39

Lacanche Ranges Part 33


Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on
Fri, Aug 4, 06 at 17:44
Okay, part 33. Wow, that's a lot of disscussion about a French stove!

Joe

Follow-Up Postings:

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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33


* Posted by trufflelover (My Page) on
Sat, Aug 5, 06 at 4:05

drec1500
I live in Spain and have a Sully +1 with 2 Pando extractors set into a brick and plasterwork hood.This works very well even when all the burners are in use.
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on
Sat, Aug 5, 06 at 7:03

Let's include a link to Part 32.

Here is a link that might be useful: Lacanche Ranges Part 32
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by annaleef (My Page) on
Sat, Aug 5, 06 at 11:37

bake_sale eric:

Love that enclume baker's sideboard! I agree with velodoug that it will work out just fine with your Lacanche, assuming it works with the rest of your kitchen overall. It is really a handsome piece. Any pictures of your new green Lacanche?

AnnaLeeF
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by plumorchard (My Page) on
Sat, Aug 5, 06 at 11:53

First, Joe and Velodoug- thanks so much for all the input. It is a big help.

The mail just came and still no samples :(. I'm still hanging in there though just very frustrated with the follow up.

Just a thought on the lack of self cleaning function in the Lacanche. This is based on my experience with my Jenn Air - Earlier this week I attempted to season some new cast iron skillets. I'm not sure if there was something already in the oven or if the skillets had some rust. Either way, there was a mess! I waited until today to do the self clean thing. Read the manual and guess what - had to clean the oven before I could clean the oven. So I did the wipe down (only w/water - can't use anything) and scrubbed for about 5 minutes. Then, start the clean. It takes 3 hours to clean and 1 hour to cool. So total 4 hours - I'm thinking it would probably be easier to just put the Easy Off on, wipe down and go. It could be wishful thinking but man that was a pain!
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by velodoug (My Page) on
Sat, Aug 5, 06 at 12:28

Self cleaning is one of the hot button topics on these forums, with people who do(don't) like it trying endlessly to convince people who don't(do) like it what a great(stupid) feature it is, and all of the evidence offered is anecdotal. There is no right answer.

My own advice, based on my own limited experience, is that if someone has not used self-cleaning, and they think it will solve all of their oven cleaning problems, they are likely to be disappointed.
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on
Sat, Aug 5, 06 at 13:28

ditto what doug says. My previous oven was self-almost-clean. I've sprayed regular easy off in my Lacanche. Okay that took all of a minute - just be careful of the thermocouple. Wait three hours and wipe, then rinse with some water. Plus, you get to sit down whle doing it!

About the only thing about my stove I miss, and this will sound odd - is an oven light.
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by annaleef (My Page) on
Sat, Aug 5, 06 at 13:30

A good feature of smaller ovens - less surface to clean! These are so easy to wipe down. As Doug indicates, this is a passionate topic, but I have not used the self-clean in any oven for years - just hated it.
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by mwardlb (My Page) on
Sat, Aug 5, 06 at 15:17

momto4 - I looked online for the Taylor thermometers, but I could only find the folding type or the stick ones. Yours appear to hang from the rack? Where did you get them?

I am interested in them because of the amount of oven roasting I do - they seem like the perfect tool to help prevent drying out the meats.

THANKS - michele
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by plumorchard (My Page) on
Sat, Aug 5, 06 at 15:37

I found one at Chef Depot that hangs on the rack.

Here is a link that might be useful: Chef Depot
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on
Sat, Aug 5, 06 at 16:17

Yep! That's the one I have! I believe that's where I ordered mine, too!
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Sat, Aug 5, 06 at 17:34

Cool. Just ordered two. Thanks for finding them plumorchard!

Ivette
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by sjay (My Page) on
Sat, Aug 5, 06 at 22:13

I am considering a cluny and ideally a cluny plus a warming oven. Other than price(which is definitely a factor), my issue with getting a warming cupboard is that I will have very limited upper cabinets in my new kitchen, so I don't want to give up the upper cabinet space. Does everyone who has a warming cupboard extend their hood over the entire range? I am afraid it will look awful if the hood only covers the burner portion of the stove.

Also, from the specs on the AC website it seems like I cannot have upper cabinets straddling each side of the regular cluny due to the clearances. Am I reading the specs correctly?

One last question, has anyone here actually recessed a lacanche into their wall. We are tight on space and am concerned with how far out the range will project with the spacer.
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* Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on
Sun, Aug 6, 06 at 4:57

Did you look through the gallery of pictures on the Lacanche website? Maybe someone has done this. I don't have uppers in my "range alcove" so I can't help you there. My range is flanked by WCs, which I can't live without now(!), and the hood extends over both...even though there is no burner on top of the right-hand WC.

Hopefully, someone with uppers will chime in re: clearances.

What's on the opposite side of the wall where you are contemplating the range? Mine is the garage. Given how I designed my alcove, my builder was certainly able to bump the wall further into the garage a few inches to accomodate any needs. I didn't end up doing it, though, as I have plenty of space. Maybe someone else here has.

Or...let's us redesign your layout for you! The folks here have done great things!!! Okay...maybe I'm just half-way kidding!

Good luck!
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by jaedwards (My Page) on
Sun, Aug 6, 06 at 12:38

I received my brochure from AC about two weeks ago and I've been quietly reading the archives before I jump in with a bunch of questions. I see that NancyUSA was the nice person who originally set up the archive page, but things haven't been updated in a long, long time and many threads are not posted. Has anyone been capturing these? What can be done to get the site up-to-date? I wouldn't mind taking a stab at it if things have been saved (assuming that more than one person can post to that blog).

I can't remember who (or when) someone posted that Lacanche is at Harrod's in London. My DH just told me that he's going to London at the end of August and I may tag along just to go see it! I have a daughter in college in Olympia WA, I could go visit her and make a side trip. If anyone is in the Chicago area (I'm on the north shore), I would love to save the airfare and put it toward a WC!
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on
Sun, Aug 6, 06 at 13:15

jaedwards...welcome!

I've emailed Nancy a couple of times, hoping to kickstart the Blog again. I've not heard back. Maybe someone else has a better email address for her. I do think people have said periodically they were saving the threads on their computers. Maybe they'll peak in (probably after summer) and help get updated! I wish I knew how to do it...I would if I could!
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by plumorchard (My Page) on
Sun, Aug 6, 06 at 13:51

Can someone tell me if I am reading this correctly? The Cormatin smallest burners is up to 5000 BTUs. Does anyone know what the lowest is? My range has one burner that will reduce to 650 to simmer.

And, sort of related, all of the burners are just one set of flames right? I have a EvenThree burner that has an inner ring and an outer ring...you can use one or the other or both. (Can't quite figure it out!)
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by velodoug (My Page) on
Sun, Aug 6, 06 at 15:28

Plumorchard -- The smallest burner on the Cormatin, and I believe on all of the Lacanche ranges, is indeed rated at 5,000 BTU maximum. I've never seen minimum ratings for any of the burners. Some participants on this forum found the lowest setting of the small burner to be too high as delivered. Fortunately it is very easy to adjust the minimum flame height, using just a screwdriver. There is a video showing how to do it on the AC web site. We have ours set very low and it produces a good low simmer.

Yes, you are right that each burner has only one set of flames. These are very simple ranges.
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by annaleef (My Page) on
Sun, Aug 6, 06 at 16:08

JAEdwards AND Momto4kids:
I haven't seen Nancy around in a long time. I used to save all the Lacanche threads, but got lazy after she set up the blog. Among our ranks, someone must be tech savvy - or maybe not - since we are all buying low tech ranges! Ha!

We could appeal to starpooh, but I think she is now recruiting volunteers to manage that fabulous kitchen inventory she created, in addition the soapstone blog.

Be nice if iVillage could provide some expertise so newbies and elders could index easily facts and experiences. frenchranges.com forum has organized categories but does not enjoy the same volume of traffic as the appliance forum here.
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by bake_sale (My Page) on
Sun, Aug 6, 06 at 16:25

Hi All:

I haven't visited the website from AC. But I remeber that it got very little traffic. Anyone know why? Maybe using that website, which AC maintains would be a good place?
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by plumorchard (My Page) on
Mon, Aug 7, 06 at 9:39

I know from reading you can light the burners if you have a power outage. Does the range have automatic reignition if the flame goes out (not power related)? And, each burner has a sep igniter?

As always, thanks,
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by velodoug (My Page) on
Mon, Aug 7, 06 at 10:16

You can light the top burners, and the gas oven, during a power outage. The top burners do not have automatic re-ignition. Each burner has a separate ignitor.
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by jaedwards (My Page) on
Mon, Aug 7, 06 at 11:15

I'm trying to play with the blog but am having trouble adding links to the first page. I've emailed Nancy using the email account she chose as the blog administrator. We'll see if I hear from her. Does anyone have anything saved from the past few months?

Won't get to it today...my son is in town for a few days and the architect comes tomorrow. hmmmmm maybe my son can help, computers are second nature to that generation.

In the meantime....still trying to resolve the oven debate within my head. Could we have a shout-out from the "elders" here as to the size of your oven and the largest turkey you made? I *know* that you really can't compare a small, well-made oven to a cavernous, inconsistent big one. I've also figured out that I could make a smaller turkey and a breast on top of the extra pan of dressing that I do already...but it would be reassuring since the turkey dinner is what brings my kids home from the far corners of the country!!!

Thanks,
Judy
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* Posted by plumorchard (My Page) on
Mon, Aug 7, 06 at 11:30

As a backup to the blog archives, I know it isn't ideal but if you can't get Nancy maybe a Blog II - ? Just an idea.

Back to turkeys.....
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on
Mon, Aug 7, 06 at 14:33

Judy...I'm trying to find a post about what we all did last Thanksgiving. I think my turkey was just under 20 lbs (maybe about 17) and I had plenty of room for it in the oven. But, I high heat roast, too, so even if I didn't have enough room, I'd have plenty of time! I'll try to locate the thread where we all talked about what we got into our ovens.
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33


* Posted by plumorchard (My Page) on
Tue, Aug 8, 06 at 16:35

I am very! disappointed in AC. I have emailed, I have left messages, I have sent faxes, I even mailed a note with a return sample (a color I did't request) and nothing! I am on the automatic notification for the emails but am getting no where with anything else. I love the range but am getting very frustrated with the lack of follow up for such a high priced product! I know I am a small fish but what gives?

(thanks for letting me vent!)
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Tue, Aug 8, 06 at 17:04

Okay, as stated above, AC closes for a month in the summer. And I do believe it is in August.

Why they don't do an autoreply kind of thing, letting people know is beyond me.

I think all (most) of us have had a time when AC didn't respond as quickly as we would like. But they always do, and we have all always been satisfied.

I do understand your frustration, I really do. Frankly, I"ve always felt they don't have enough employees and have had to send a couple of "friendly reminders" once or maybe twice. They have come through each time.

Anyway, I actually came on board to BOAST (since I don't want to start another thread just for this) that there is RUNNING WATER in my kitchen!!!!! WHOO HOOO!! Yessireeee! The main sink and the prep sink are fully operational, and may I just JUST say that the faucets are totally drooooooool???

Oh joy!
Ivette
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* Posted by gingerginger (My Page) on
Tue, Aug 8, 06 at 17:36

plumorchard and velodoug both write about re-lighting the burners or lighting the burners and ovens of the AC LaCanche ranges if they go out or if there's a power outage . . . . please confirm that the gas valves are not interlocked with the electrical igniters, . . . so that one could actually set up the ranges without an electrical supply, period (and light them each time with long matches or butane lighters). yes??

ginger
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on
Tue, Aug 8, 06 at 17:38

plumorchard...yes, I know it can get frustrating. It bums me out when this happens. They are a small outfit, in that stage where they could use more employees from our perspective...but probably can't from their perspective. Plus, they do run another business or two. And yes, I think August is when they are the leanest staffwise, since the factory in France is closed. I wish this didn't happen because it detracts from the wonderful range. Hang in there. I couldn't find those other threads. Drats. I wish I knew who saved them besides Nancy.

Ivette....WOOOOOWWWWWW! OMGosh...long time coming, GF!! I cannot wait to see pix. I drool just thinking about the color of your range!
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by velodoug (My Page) on
Tue, Aug 8, 06 at 18:10

Ginger -- If you order the range with just a gas oven (or gas ovens) and don't plug it in to an electrical outlet it will work just fine. The top burners are easy to light with an ordinary kitchen match. The oven burner is easier with something a little longer like a fireplace match or a butane grill lighter.
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by vedazu (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 9, 06 at 7:53

Between gingerginer and plumorchard, I'm inspired to bake something!

Re: igniting the burners. Once upon a time, Mindstorm made the observation that if you turn the knobs back towards the off position, you can get a very low simmer. This created a bit of controversy because of the possibility of the burner going out and leaking gas. I use this trick regularly; I've tried to blow out the low flame, and then relight it with a match--there doesn't seem to be any gas leakage in this situation--no gas sound, no gas smell, no ability to re-light. Anyone care to comment?
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* Posted by annaleef (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 9, 06 at 8:51

Aside from having your Lacanche fired up for the first time, I think getting water flowing may be the second best day in a remodel - enjoy your eight glasses today, Ivette!
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by velodoug (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 9, 06 at 9:37

Hi Veda, it's good to hear from you again.

I don't know how the gas controls and ignitors work on your European Lacanche. I suspect that it is different in some respects from the US models. For example, what does the little pushbutton on the control panel with the star label do? The US models don't have it. Anyway, it's quite possible that your range has more safeguards built into it than the US models, which might make operating the burners in the range hetween High and Off OK. I stand by my view that for the US models it is a potentially dangerous practice.

Doug
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33


* Posted by vedazu (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 9, 06 at 11:39

Hi, Doug! The pushbutton is the ignition/spark--you hold it down with your left hand and push/turn the knob for the appropriate burner with your right. I thought the UL were the same in this regard? Veda
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33


* Posted by velodoug (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 9, 06 at 12:26

Veda,

The UL ranges don't have the little button. On each top burner control the first position CCW from OFF is labeled IGN. Turning the knob to IGN starts the spark going. Continuing to rotate the knob to HIGH starts the gas going. If you rotate the knob CCW past HIGH before it lights, the sparking stops and you have to turn it back CW back to HIGH to get it going again.

The gas oven is simpler. It has an IGN label just CCW of OFF but there is no need to stop turning it there. Just push the knob in, rotate it to the desired temperature, and the sparking and the pilot gas will start. Once the thermopile in the pilot flame heats up the main gas starts and lights and the oven heats up.

While we're on the subject, you might be able to help clear up another mystery. The aluminum collar under the brass cap on each burner has two holes. On the UL ranges the spark ignitor sticks up through the right hole and the left hole is blanked off. I have to believe the second hole is there for a reason. Is it used for anything on your range?

Doug
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 9, 06 at 12:57

Hi everyone --

We've been escaping the Arizona summer heat for the past 6+ weeks and are now back in town (kiddies are back in school this week). I meant to post photos of our new Lacanche (Cluny 1400 Classique) kitchen (about 90% complete) before we left but ran out of time. Here it is. It's still not complete (needs shoe molding for baseboards, plastered range hood, need to install appliance cabinet panels with hardware, install flat screen TV over desk, etc.). It's also just a blank canvass right now...needs some pizazz added by decorating with color (window treatments) and accessories but that will come in time. I'm still exhausted from the construction of the house, moving in and traveling this Summer. Not a lot of energy left to decorate. Oh, and we will be putting some furniture in the great room soon!

I've enjoyed reading everyone's updates lately and seeing all the new people getting excited about their Lacanche purchases. Which reminds me. We haven't done much cooking on our Lacanche just yet. It's too hot to do it just yet. But we will, we will. What we have done has worked wonderfully. Question: the installer did a great job but what do you think about how the Lacanche is raised up (feet). Luckily, he had these "feet" on his truck. There was a problem with what came with the range and I can't recall why. DH and I are 5'll" and 5'7" respectively so the height is not an issue but I imagine it would be better if it was a bit lower? Thoughts?

Here is a link that might be useful: More pics of our Lacanche kitchen
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by plumorchard (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 9, 06 at 17:36

Gorgeous Kitchen! That is incredible.
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 9, 06 at 17:57

that's really beautiful AZDreamhome. I love that hood! How wonderful for you!

I like the look of the feet. We had height issues too when we first got the range and figured out that the feet or whatever were in the "delivery" position and needed to be changed to make the range higher, which we did. I thought the Lacanche instructions say not to use anything else to stand the range up, but I could be wrong. It sure looks nice!

Ivette
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by mwardlb (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 9, 06 at 21:10

azdreamhome - WOW!! What a stunning kitchen. I LOVE the light fixtures!!! Great job!!
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by annaleef (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 9, 06 at 21:40

AZ - Stunning home and beautiful cool stone surfaces and color palette for the desert environment. You must be so ready to put your feet up and relax after pulling together this magnificent home. Just perfect!
Our daughter is packing now to leave PHX for CT. We'll see if she adapts to our New England winters!
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by vedazu (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 9, 06 at 23:00

Doug,

I went to my manual-- there is a metal projection in that second, left hole, not that I know what it does. It is called a thermocoupler and earlier in the manual it refers to adjusting the "thermocouple safety cut-outs: " If the burner goes out, having kept the control knob pushed in for roughly 20 seconds, check: Moderate tightening of magnetic head on the valve, that the thermocouple tip actually touches the flame and the thermocouples and magnetic heads are clean. "

Got that? All Greek to me! It is interesting that these ranges are different in this respect. Since you are an engineer, would you like a copy of this manual? Be happy to send it if you like.

By the way, you can ignite the burners when the knobs are pushed in past the 3/4 position (CCW) at any time--pushing in the knob releases the gas flow. Veda
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 10, 06 at 6:58

AZ...BEAUTIFUL! I've been waiting to see your progress! It's just lovely!!
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by velodoug (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 10, 06 at 11:33

Veda,

Thank you for offering to send a copy of the manual. Since the ranges are significantly different it would only be of academic interest, but I'll keep it in mind.

It's clear from your description that your non-UL range has a safety feature that the UL ranges do not have. I am not surprised because European safety standards are often more stringent than those in North America. On your range, if the thermocouple in the left hole detects that the flame has gone out with the gas still turned on the gas is automatically shut off. The instruction you quote is addressing what to do if the safety feature malfunctions and keeps the burner from lighting at all.

With that safety feature, your burners can probably be safely operated in the range between HIGH and OFF where the UL ranges, in my opinion, can not. I have to qualify this opinion because there may be other differences, but if you can't small gas when you blow out the flame you are most likely OK. In my opinion, the rest of us should not be trying this stunt.

Doug
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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 10, 06 at 16:14

OMG. I suppose someday, when my range is actually fired up and I'm using it, I'll understand what in the heck velodoug and vedazu are talking about. Thermocouplers????

LOL!
Ivette
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by jaedwards (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 10, 06 at 22:44

AZ--congrats on that beautiful kitchen!

To all--I know I read somewhere about the oven sizes on the different models...can't find it at all. Is the Cluny the only model with the small ovens? Then what is the difference between the Volnay/Vougeot and the Chambertin/Chassagne models/ovens? I am assuming the Fontenay oven is the same size as the Sully. I know you all have been through what I'm going through...hobs! colors! one oven/two ovens/warming cabinet! Right now, since we are still in prelim with the architect, I'm alloting 60" for a range. He's never heard of Lacanche (sigh). Now with all the red alert stuff, the trip to London is off. Oh! I so wanted to see a Lacanche in person. Don't get me wrong...I'm happy the terrorists were caught and the alert is necessary and WAY more important than me buying a stove.

So....colors....the marron glace isn't as deep of a brown as I thought it would be..seems more like the almond to me (frangipane). Pretty though. I like the terracotta, curious about the delft blue. Ivory and burgundy still make my heart beat the fastest for now.

As far as oven size, I would really like a single cluny oven with a warming cabinet, then I'd get a electric conv wall oven for my baking center. Since we're soon to be empty nesters, most of my cooking will be for two and the cluny would be perfect.

Oh well, enough stove dreams for me tonight. Now I'll go obsess about the 2nd floor drawings. The architect blocked a bedroom window with the addition roof and now I'm reworking the entire upstairs before I call him. Good thing I caught it. We were almost ready to go to working drawings.

Thanks for putting up with all my newbie rambling! Still would like the turkey info!!!!!

Judy in Chicagoland
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by klb_2000 (My Page) on
Fri, Aug 11, 06 at 0:32

Judy, take a look at the specifications on the Art Culinaire support page...I think they will answer many of your questions (well, except for the questions about which color to choose!)

Here is a link that might be useful: Lacanche Specifications
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 33

* Posted by vedazu (My Page) on
Fri, Aug 11, 06 at 8:04

Judy--I had a 17+turkey last year. I think the point is this: if is fits in your roasting pan, you can get it in the oven. Seventeen or 18 pounds is probably close to your limit--I think the bird's legs were crammed in somehow, as I recall. VZ

Lacanche Ranges Part 32

Posted by maringirl (My Page) on
Fri, May 12, 06 at 11:57

Hi everyone -- We left off at the end of part 31 discussing hoods/liners. I feel like I have depleted any decision-making ability after 18 months of home building, but I am coming down the the wire on the hood. We are going with a VAH liner, and the best solution design-wise is a 46 3/8" wide, 900 CFM. My range is the Chambertin 43.5", with an open burner, FT, one 5K and one 11K burner, and a gas oven (plus warming cupboard). Can any of the Lacanche/VAH owners comment on whether this is sufficent venting to accomodate a variety of cooking styles? On the decorative element I've gone from wood/plaster to copper and back to wood/plaster. I don't have uppers next to the hood, but I don't have an alcove either. Also my range is centered on a vaulted ceiling, so there is a "peak" at the top of the hood. Does anyone have a good source for decorative hood ideas? Thank you so much! Val

Follow-Up Postings:

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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 32


* Posted by lpolk (My Page) on
Fri, May 12, 06 at 12:33

oh my gosh, did you guys see the AGA Legacy thread? Check out the new Heartland products (now AGA/Heartland). Can you tell what competition they are going after?? :)

At least I know where to go if my Mass. approval falls through!!!

Here is a link that might be useful: New Heartland Ranges Fall 2006
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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 32


* Posted by pamela1 (My Page) on
Fri, May 12, 06 at 13:14

Oh yes, and look at what La Cornue is doing.
"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"....
Pamela

Here is a link that might be useful: New Cluny-clone CornueFe range
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Better link



* Posted by pamela1 (My Page) on
Fri, May 12, 06 at 13:19

Sorry--here is a better link to the CornueFe 110 range. The oven doors side-swing...a great new design feature. Maybe others will copy IT.
P.

Here is a link that might be useful: Better CornueFe link
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What?


* Posted by pamela1 (My Page) on
Fri, May 12, 06 at 13:22

Jeez--I've been away too long.
Last try...
P.

Here is a link that might be useful: CornueFe at Purcell Murray
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* Posted by wareaglegirl (My Page) on
Fri, May 12, 06 at 14:50

This has been such a great site! I have learned so much about lacanche from reading all of the threads. Just changed my entire kitchen design to accomodate the Sully. Ordered yesterday....should arrive in September. Thank you everyone!

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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 32


* Posted by elliebell (My Page) on
Fri, May 12, 06 at 15:17

Ipolk - we are hanging tough on that Massachusetts approval! That Heartland Range may work as well, but where's the charm?? Keep the faith.

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* Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on
Fri, May 12, 06 at 16:49

Val-
Check out the Lacanche Blog at the site below. I know Zolablue has a unique hood. Bosche. Warren ("stainless Lacanche," I think is how it's listed). I thought there were a couple others...but I can't recall.

WarEagleGirl-
Congrats! So...hey, we need more details! Color? Trim? Etc!! (PS "Go Dawgs!" ;0) )

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RE: Lacanche Ranges part 32

* Posted by bake_sale (My Page) on
Fri, May 12, 06 at 21:52

Val: are you in Marin Co.? We live in the East Bay. We went with a custom hood from rangecraft. 42" for our cluny, which is slightly under 40". They produced the hood with our odd bal specs. We needed the vent to be out the back but not on center to take advantage of a pre-existing hole. Top quality production, exactly to out specs.

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* Posted by drec1500 (My Page) on
Sat, May 13, 06 at 6:30

My wife and I have just ordered a Sully+2 (the kind that momto4kids has) Very Excited.

This forum has been great...I know more than the distibuter in some instances. (we live in Spain)

We ordered ours with the French Cooktop, the single 5Kw burner, the two standard burners and an electric griddle, I dont think that the griddle is available in the US models. I was considering adding 2 additional burners since I have the real estate available but I like the idea of having open work surfaces right on the hob and with this layout. I think I have tremendous flexibility.

I chose one of the two side cabinets to have the warming element. Has anyone here have experience with using them. I understan that you can slow cook in them...I'm thinking ribs, oatmeal, yum.

The distributer is pretty excited since she told us that this will be the largest Lacanche range installed in Spain to date...Woo Hoo!

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* Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on
Sat, May 13, 06 at 11:08

drec1500-
Congrats on your Sully+2!! How exciting! Both of my side cabinets are Warming Cupboards. They are terrific!! I am so pleased with them. Yes, you can do plenty of proofing, slow-roasting and low temp cooking! I had warming drawer in my last house. The WC is so much more flexible. I can put bigger (taller) pots in. I can fit a lot more food in the WC than in the WD. I keep my dinner plates on one rack so I always have warm plates. I have burners over the entire surface, but the far right. I have the ss work surface over the righthand WC. Yes, it is nice to have that space! Good luck! You'll enjoy it!

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* Posted by maringirl (My Page) on
Sat, May 13, 06 at 15:11

Congratulations to the fellow new Lacanche owners! I can't wait to get mine out of the garage!

Bake_Sale -- I do live in Marin -- what material/shape is your hood?

Momto4kids -- I really like the softness of your plaster hood. Does the front panel have a curve on it as well as the sides? Also, what material did you use to fill in the gaps between the liner and the shell on the underside?

Does anyone have advise on CFMs? Thanks!

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* Posted by annaleef (My Page) on
Sun, May 14, 06 at 12:47

We went with 1200 cfm's in our VAH liner. We do lots of grilling and sizzling, smokey stuff, so we need that. If your cooking style is different, 900 may be fine. DH loves to pre-heat the grill for overly long periods of time while we have an appetitizer, so I am always jumping up to make sure enough fans are running in the VAH when I see the smoke stating upwards. He set the smoke alarm off last week because he did not pay attention and get the vent working soon enough. Kind of a reckless cook, but I have to appreciate his zeal!

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* Posted by maringirl (My Page) on
Mon, May 15, 06 at 10:42

Hi annaleef -- Can you remind me which model you have? How high over the range did you mount your liner? Did you center the liner over your burners? Thanks!

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* Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on
Mon, May 15, 06 at 13:12

Maringirl...so sorry to not address your questions! I believe I have two of the BH240PSLD units, which are listed at 600 CFMs with 900 CFM equivalents. I don't have any venting issues, I feel. I think everything gets pulled out. I don't see greasy, grimey stuff. It never gets smokey. I think it's enough.

Here is a link to pictures of my hood during installation. The frame is 2 by 2-inch or 2 by 3-inch wrapped in stainless steel sheeting. The liner is mounted inside the frame. Underneath, all exposed parts are stainless...whther it's the stainless liner...or the frame that was wrapped in stainless steel. The sides and front exterior (decorative) part of the hood are all curved. The plaster, I think, is just the "usual" stucco most faux painters use, but smoothed down a bit so it wasn't so rough.

Let me know if the link doesn't work...or email me and I'll email them to you. The pictures aren't quite as clear as I thought regarding what is ss-wrapped 2 by 2 vs what is the actual liner itself!!

Here is a link that might be useful: Hood pictures
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* Posted by wareaglegirl (My Page) on
Tue, May 16, 06 at 15:21

Momto4kids: Sorry it took me a few days to respond. I have been reading other appliance threads. We ordered the black Sully with 2 extra 11K burners. I really wanted the WC, but could not fit it in. I will get a Wolf WD for somewhere else.

Now I am trying to figure out the rest of the appliances. We close on an 80 year old house in one month and start remodeling immediately. Hopefully, we will be able to take down the partial wall between the breakfast room and the kitchen. We won't know until we tear in to it. Did I mention it is an original exterior wall and is 12 inches thick? Once we know if it can come down....then we can finalize the other appliances. But the Lacanche stays.....No matter what!!!

The house has a subzero refrigerator only and NO FREEZER! The people who lived there had "issues" with frozen food. I have absolutely NO PROBLEMS with ice cream. They also have an ice machine that sounds like someone is breaking in to the house with a sledge hammer. Guess I should replace that! Anyways....I am thrilled to have the range worked out!
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* Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on
Tue, May 16, 06 at 16:15

Congrats Wareaglegirl!!

Okay...I'm gonna throw you a curve ball...Is there anyway you can squeeze in the WC? I ask because I had a WD in my last house. I had planned for two in this house until I found the Lacanche. I got two WCs since I had planned two WDs. The WC, in my humble opinion(!), is INFINITELY more versatile than the WD. So...just my two cents...but if it's not totally out of the question, just give it another thought!

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* Posted by wareaglegirl (My Page) on
Wed, May 17, 06 at 5:03

Oh..how I wish. No, I really tried to cram the WC in. My husband really loved the WC too. I wish they made a separate WC. I could have fit that in on another wall or in the island.

We sold our old house faster than we close on the new house. So we are living in a condo....kind of like a vacation. Last night, my husband came home later than normal and I attempted to keep warm his dinner in the hotpoint 30" oven. Pretty dried out when he came home. Very funny. Could have used a WC or WD.

* Posted by drec1500 (My Page) on
Wed, May 17, 06 at 8:17

wareaglegirl, have you thought about the Fontenay? It is 59.25 inches and has two WC's. The only thing is that is has only 1 oven, albeit a large one. You also have more options for goodies on the hob, at least in the european models (a gas barbeque, a deep fryer or a bain-marie. A Sully with only 1 WC is 71 inches, you can put it either on the left or right. A Cluny with 1 WC would be the same size as a standard Sully. You would get 2 ovens (smallish) and your WC. Plus you could add extra burners to the hob or just have additional work space.

* Posted by wareaglegirl (My Page) on
Wed, May 17, 06 at 18:49

I actually was torn between getting the Cluny 1400 and the Sully. After reading the posts....I decided to get the Sully. I think Momto4kids said at one point that she would give up her WCs first, then go to the Cluny.

I do alot of baking. A few weeks ago, I made 98 cupcakes for my 2 children's class parties and Sunday school classes. I actually went to Williams-Sonoma with a measuring tape. Most things fit fine in the Cluny, but there were a few that just don't. We eat turkey more often than Thanksgiving. I brine the turkey and cook cornbread dressing, the whole thing. I wish Lacanche had a cluny and a sully sized ovens. BTW did everyone know that an All-Clad lasagna pan and the All-Clad small roaster are the same size but with different shaped handles. $50 difference in price.


* Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on
Wed, May 17, 06 at 20:50

wareaglegirl: I've posted this before, but if you are an all-clad chick, you need to know the cheapest place to get it that I have been able to find. They are, essentially, the factory seconds store. Of all the pieces I have purchased, I have yet to see what the defect was. Plus, full warrenty.They just had a sale where you could get up to 48% off retail. I think they do that twice yearly. If you contact them, they will send you a sale catalog.
(the small roaster was $117 on their sale)

Here is a link that might be useful: Cookware & More web site
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* Posted by maringirl (My Page) on
Wed, May 17, 06 at 21:40

momto4kids -- thank you so much for the info and the link to your pictures. I'm showing the pictures to my contractor.

Wareaglegirl -- I was in the exact same quandry over a year ago and got lots of great input from this forum. I also talked to Tom at AC who said that if you do a lot of roasting (mostly what I use my oven for), the Sully sized oven provides easier access for basting, turning etc. The one criticsm I've seen of the Lacanche is that the racks don't slide that easily. Since I really wanted the WC too, I ended up with the Chambertin (one Sully-sized oven and a WC), 43 1/2" wide, with an 18K open burner, FT and two smaller burners. I got a 36" electric convection wall oven for my second oven. Since everything is in the garage, I can't say how it is working out yet! The only thing I question is whether I should have given up the aesthetics of the larger range (I love the scale of the Sully). As I over think all of the details, I am very comforted by the fact that everyone seems blissfully happy with whatever model they chose!

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* Posted by annaleef (My Page) on
Thu, May 18, 06 at 0:44

maringirl-
To answer your questions, we have the Cluny and we mounted the outer capture wood hood at 36 inches over the range at the centerpoint (liner is 39 inches above). The trim and lights take up the first 10 forward inches under the hood, and the front burners are only partially under that part.

This hood is actually a dream & very efficient. There is no problem when we actually turn on the fans and don't leave grill and griddle on without food for extended periods (as one of us is known to do!).

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* Posted by susanandmarkw (My Page) on
Thu, May 18, 06 at 2:29

Just FYI for any Lacanche fans in the Oklahoma City area. We visited the Designer Showhouse this week and the kitchen features a brass/gold Lachanche range (with french top).

It's open for viewing through May 21, 20006.

Here is a link that might be useful: Oklahoma City Designer Show House
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* Posted by janieo (My Page) on
Fri, May 19, 06 at 0:52

As a result of all the wonderful Lacanche posts, I have made an emotional decision to get the Vougeot. However, I really, really want to see one in person before I put in the order. Is there anyone who lives in the Los Angeles area who would be willing to let me open their oven door and turn on the hobs of their Volnay or Vougeot? I would be most appreciative if you would respond on this site; I will pass on my e-mail. Thank you so much in advance.
Janie O

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* Posted by maringirl (My Page) on
Fri, May 19, 06 at 13:33

Hi Janie -- Stan or Tom at AC can arrange for you to see a Lacanche in your area. That's what I did before I ordered. It was more out of curiosity though because I knew I was going to get one!

analeef -- thank you for the info. I have now ordered my VAH liner!

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* Posted by janieo (My Page) on
Fri, May 19, 06 at 20:14

Hi Maringirl, thanks for the suggestion. A few weeks ago I spoke with AC about referrals but they said L.A. is a unique place (surprise, surprise) and he has had trouble getting people to call back when he has called about personal visits. That's why I decided to use this forum. I hope I change that pattern when I finally get mine...
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* Posted by annaleef (My Page) on
Sun, May 21, 06 at 21:29

Ivette:
I haven't kept up with too many postings lately. Are we going to see the unveiling of that French Blue Cluny in its natural CwnPt habitat anytime soon or are you still buried in painting and drywall?

Did I remember that right or is it Portuguese Blue? My memory is fading, fading!
ALF

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* Posted by liz01770 (My Page) on
Mon, May 29, 06 at 20:08

I was browsing real estate ads on Realtor.com last night (pathetic hobby of mine) in Old Lyme, CT and I came across a beautiful house on the CT river with a gorgeous kitchen featuring a LaCanche range. For all you fans, take a peek. It is my new dream kitchen. You will find the house in the 1.9m price range and it is a stately yellow antique colonial.

In the meanwhile, I am waiting eagerly to find out how AC's visit to Massachusetts goes this week to get listed. Obstacle number 2 would be to get my husband to see the value in a $10K range. :( Thanks to all you guys, I have become hooked.

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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Mon, May 29, 06 at 20:34

Hi anna!

Soooo lucky I just happened to check in on this thread and saw your note! So sweet of you to check in.

Still immersed in drywall dust and Joel's "Level Five Finish" WHATeverrrrrrr. But that's all done now and he just complete the shell for our custom hood cover tonight and put the VAH in place!!! YAY!! The Lacanche is still in its location but not "plugged" in yet. But it should be very soon! After this week and next, we'll pretty much be in the painting stage. Which will take weeks, but man, it's the home stretch! Sort of.

No, we have the French Blue. But both are beautiful.

Ivette

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* Posted by annaleef (My Page) on
Tue, May 30, 06 at 0:13

Wonderful progress, Ivette! You are past all the infrastructure that is important, but so slow and invisible to the eye, and finally into the finishes - exciting! You have such a classic color palette lined up to complement your French Blue Cluny. Can't wait to see how it comes together.

Used our simmering plate for the FIRST time tonight and made gumbo in our 6 quart Emile Henry stewpot. It was perfectly cooked, after bringing it to a boil on Cluny's 18,000 BTU center burner, then moving it over to the simmering plate to finish it off. I discovered I was out of rice after starting the gumbo, so I threw in a few handfuls of orzo as it moved to the simmering plate. Wouldn't that curl the toes of friends in the bayou! But, yumm! Don't know why it took so long to remember to try the plate out!

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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Tue, May 30, 06 at 18:18

OMG, droooooooooooool.

:)
Ivette


* Posted by pdjcmb (My Page) on
Fri, Jun 2, 06 at 14:53

Our burgundy red cluny is set to arrive this month - we're very excited!

But because our contractors are ahead of schedule, and our lacanche seems to have fallen about a week behind, we're looking for extra reassurance on one point: has anyone successfully installed cabinets around the cluny based on specs alone? I've been reassured by AC that measurements are very reliable with the regular cluny, and in our configuration, the cluny is near the end of a cabinet run, with only 1 base cabinet between it & open space. Have any others installed surrounding base cabinets before placing the range with no problems? Thanks!!

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* Posted by mwardlb (My Page) on
Fri, Jun 2, 06 at 14:58

janieo - I have a cluny1400 sitting in my garage in Long Beach if you are still interested in seeing a range in person. It should be installed in the next month or so, but you are more than welcome to open the doors and take a peek.
Michele

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* Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on
Fri, Jun 2, 06 at 17:28

pdgcmb - Contractors ahead of schedule - imagine! We installed our Cluny after our cabinets and it fit like a glove. No problems at all. How exciting that you're so close! You'll have to post a picture when everything is in place. Good luck!

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* Posted by bertie_d (My Page) on
Fri, Jun 2, 06 at 17:35

YAYYYYYYYY!!Soooooo Happy!!!! We are back in Oregon..Kitchen 99.5% complete and the French blue Cluny looks fabulous..We couldn't be happier. Have cooked just enough to see the FT start to "season? I will let that happen and fuss over everything else... I love everything about this stove!!!and look forward to learning all of the little nuances of cooking on it. The kitchen is everything i dreamed it would be and more.. I will post photos when the last little bits of construction are finished. Meanwhile. "Hi" to all of you regulars and the many newbies..and thanks again for all of the info..Bertie

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* Posted by janieo (My Page) on
Fri, Jun 2, 06 at 20:57

Michele, thanks so much for your kind offer. I might well take you up on it; preferably once it is installed. However, earlier today I called Art Culinaire and found someone in Boston with a Vouget. My son is graduating next week (thank goodness) and we will be in Cambridge for five days. If we can find our way to the North Boston suburbs we can possibly see one there. We are still organizing the visit but if it doesn't work I will let you know. Thanks again for your kind offer and I hope your Cluny is all you hope it to be.
Janie O

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* Posted by pdjcmb (My Page) on
Sat, Jun 3, 06 at 13:37

wilsonb: thank you -- I'll worry less now. By the way, I saw your own finished photos in the gallery -- your kitchen is truly beautiful.

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* Posted by alexia717 (My Page) on
Sat, Jun 10, 06 at 11:25

Hello, I am new to this forum, and have been reading your reviews for the Lacanche ranges. Like others, I am worried about ordering a range without actually seeing one in person. I live in New York and AC has not succeeded in having anyone let me view their range. By any chance, does anyone in NY have a range they would let me view??

My KD needs me to make a decision asap so he can go ahead with the designing. I am debating going with the Cluny with separate wall oven, or with the Sully. I looked at the Wolf 60" range and it just looked too monstrous. I am wondering if the Sully would look overwhelmingly huge too.?

Thanks!

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* Posted by bertie_d (My Page) on
Sat, Jun 10, 06 at 15:17

Alexia, Many of us have purchased our laCanche Ranges "sight unseen:. Short of seeing one in person check out the LaCanche Web Site, www.frenchranges .com. View the Gallery. You can get a great perspective seeing them in so many beautiful kitchens. When I considered the big Wolf or Vikings I felt a lot like you do..Too klunky and industrial looking for my taste. We have a Cluny in blue and it is so much more refined looking. No comparison.. I'm sure you would be pleased..especially with the extra wall ovens. Cluny ovens are small, but extremnely efficient. The Only problem for me so far, and I am asking the seasoned Cluny users out there for help on this...I baked a two layer carrot cake today. Since the two 9 inch pans would not fit on one rack I placed one below the other on the rack just beneath. turned out beautifully, cooked in less time and very evenly baked. except the bottom layer rose into the rack above..oops???? should I use the bottom rack? I would appreciate your sharing advice on this one. Thanks, Bertie.....and good luck Alexia.

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* Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on
Sat, Jun 10, 06 at 15:45

alexia -- I'm another one who purchased a Lacanche (Cluny 1400 black) sight unseen. We had it installed about 3+ weeks ago and it was "exactly" what I thought it would be. There were absolutely no surprises since I frequented this Lacanche forum for the year we were in planning. I saw tons of pictures and heard so many different things about the Lacanche (including the negatives). Would I buy one again sight unseen? Yep. But I really don't think I would have been brave enough without everyone on this board and all the info they shared over time.

Everyone -- We have been in "move in" hell since May 15th when our move started. We finally vacated our rental home on May 31st and are still unpacking in the new home. The Lacanche has barely been used (so very sad, I know). It's also BBQ weather so my DH loves to do that. I plan on taking photos of our kitchen and Lacanche in the next week and will post them here. It looks great in its new home! Oh! And I do plan on doing more than warming up take-out pizza and making scrambled eggs on it. We are "leaving" it for the Summer in less than two weeks so it will really sit unused for a number of weeks. But come this Fall, it will finally get the attention it deserves!

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* Posted by histokitch (My Page) on
Sat, Jun 10, 06 at 16:16

Alexia--I don't have a Lacanche, but a client does. It is more beautiful and finely finished in person than they can possibly show on the internet. If you are planning on wall ovens at all, might I suggest the Vougeot (or Volnay) that has one larger (Sully) oven, one warming cabinet and the same burner configuration as the Cluny. I'm going to do that in all gas and get an electric wall oven.

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* Posted by alexia717 (My Page) on
Sat, Jun 10, 06 at 20:11

Hi, and thank you for sharing your information and suggestions with me. I have been looking at ranges in the past month. Currently, I have the Viking double wall ovens with the 36" cooktop. My kitchen and appliances ar 6 years old and the ovens needed service about 6 times. Now I am moving AGAIN, and renovating AGAIN (HEEELLP.) This time I was looking at the Wolf ovens, but decided I wanted something different. The commercial look seems to be all over the place lately, and being that I had it already I was looking for something different. My KD had the Lacornu in his showroom, and when I first saw it, I began to drool...when I saw the price tag, I almost fainted. I went on the internet and began looking for French stoves with the same look and smaller price tag, and that is how I came across the Lacanches.

I have spoken to the people at AC several times, but still worried about ordering something that cost so much without seeing it. Today, I spent hours reading the forums and feel like I'm going ahead with the Lacanche. The only worry I have is with the service. AC gave me some numbers in my area of authorized service people...but when I called them, they never even heard of Lacanche. How can AC list them as authorized services, if the never even heard of the stoves?

Today, I also spoke to my KD who said the 55" would look better in my kitchen. Now I have to decide on which way to go....the Cluny 1400 with a separate wall oven (I definitely need a large size oven when I entertain) OR the Sully.....this model cost so much, that I cannot get the wall oven (Husband will shoot me if I go this route)....but I still worry that these ovens will still not be big enough or that their broiler is not good. Also, I worry that the warming oven on the Cluny will not be large enough to hold any of my larger pans when I entertain....Still confused!!!

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* Posted by annaleef (My Page) on
Sat, Jun 10, 06 at 22:57

alexia717,

If you want to see a standard Cluny (not the Cluny1400) in person for comparison's sake and you don't mind driving to Connecticut, you are welcome to see ours - just e-mail me.
I know there are some other owners in NY, NJ & CT as well who post here.

AnnaLeeF

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* Posted by alexia717 (My Page) on
Sun, Jun 11, 06 at 9:46

AnnaleeF,
Thank you so much for the offer. It is so kind of you. I just may take you up on the offer....I am still hoping someone from NY will respond.

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* Posted by elliebell (My Page) on
Sun, Jun 11, 06 at 12:42

Alexia717 - I have researched the Lacanche from every angle. I too am buying it unseen. A real leap and only possible because of the wealth of testimonials on line. I'm going with the Cluny (Frangipane will be the color!) because it's best for my kitchen layout and the size is proportionate to everything else. I also agonized about the size of the ovens and concluded the two smaller ovens are going to be just fine. Based on all you describe about your situation - especially that the bigger will look better - I'd go with the Sully and get the two bigger ovens.

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* Posted by annaleef (My Page) on
Mon, Jun 12, 06 at 22:05

Alexia - any luck finding a NY owner?

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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Tue, Jun 13, 06 at 18:40

annalee, momto4kids and others:

How high (tall) is your Lacanche??? We have run into a problem. Wére doing cherry counters and the total height of our counters and cabinets is 36" which, by the Lacanche specs should be alright. BUT as it stands now, the top of our grates are only just slightly above the top of the counter. The range is at 35 and some odd inches high TOTAL. We feel like we should be able to adjust it taller, but it appears like we've maxed it out. How high can this thing go? And when you guys adjusted your hight, did you have to move the screw to a different part of the range? We're off to look at the Lacanche unpacking video for clues, but I'm just curious. I guess if we can't make it any taller, we'll just have to wait and see what happens. DH is convinced all will be well, because the TOP of the grate is above the counter, but I'd prefer that the difference be greater. But the counters are at 36" and the range appears to be as high as it will go, so I don't understand how anyone can have 36" high cabinets/counters and not have the top of the grates be almost flush. Unless we're missing something in the height adjustment?

Thanks,
Ivette

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* Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on
Tue, Jun 13, 06 at 19:17

Ivette: Don't recall for sure, but I thought there was something about moving (or reversing?) the feet to get it higher. Just call them.

Joe

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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Tue, Jun 13, 06 at 19:24

Our Cluny came with the feet attached already. In looking at the uncrating slide show, it appears that they put the feet where the pallet bolts USED to be. Do we need to move them from where they came attached, and install them where the pallet bolts were? Calling AC tomorrow.

Thanks,
Ivette

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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Tue, Jun 13, 06 at 19:26

thanks Joe. Sounds like a *clue*.

Ivette

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* Posted by annaleef (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 15, 06 at 8:24

Ivette:
Maybe you have figured out the foot adjustment by now. Measuring is so tricky! Our Cluny's stainless steel edge sits maybe a 1/16 of an inch above our counters and the grates add maybe another 3/4", not including the higher sections. As I remember, the installers did adjust the feet to get it to the right height.
You must be getting closer!!!!

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* Posted by lpolk (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 15, 06 at 10:45

Hi all, just wanted to announce here as well as the other thread that Lacanches are now legal in MA! yay!! I'm ordering a black cluny today. :)

Thanks to Art Culinaire for their efforts. I can stop lurking and start participating here! At least in October, yikes, which delays my kitchen 3 months! Cutting it close for the holidays...

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* Posted by elliebell (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 15, 06 at 11:46

Hi Ipolk - congratualtions, I'm sure it's going to be worth the wait. It sounds like the approval process was much ado about not much - welcome to the Baystate! I am getting a Cluny too - the color I am leaning toward is Frangipane - sort of a taupe color. I think it will look great with my sage green cabinets. Good luck.

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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 15, 06 at 20:16

Hi! AC called us back today and sure enough, the feet need to go in the same location as the bolts were that attached it to the pallet for shipping. The place where they place them for shipping is JUST for shipping. No wonder we couldn't get it high enough. DH told them they really need to make this clearer in the instructions and the slide show.

Kind of a pain because it's in already, but DH assures me he can adjust it no problem. I am THRILLED because I cannot tell you how much sleep I have lost over this range being too low. Now it will be just right! I just want the tope of the range (not the burners) to be flush or just slightly above the counters. Then all will be well. Like yours Annalee! We are getting close! The floors are GORGEOUS and I start painting this weekend and DH is finishing up the kitchen! (then we have to finish the bathrooms, and will take me forever to paint, but hey, Close is CLOSE!)

Best,
Ivette

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* Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 15, 06 at 21:16

Ivette - Congratulations! You must be so excited!
lpolk - That's great about MA. I went to the AC website to take a peek at Frangipane, but they don't have the new colors posted. It sounds gorveous.

bertie - I have a Cluny, and I use the bottom rack for baking. It works fine, but I do switch the pans halfway through the baking process to make sure that they bake evenly. Sometimes one rack cooks a bit faster.

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* Posted by klb_2000 (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 15, 06 at 23:13

Well, my little ivory Cormatin is finally on its way....scheduled for delivery next week! Which should make me very very excited.....except I am STILL without a gas line! After months of working with the gas company and city to get written confirmation that some insanely expensive street restoration requirements would NOT apply to our gas line installation, once the gas company finally came out to do the installation of the line about a month ago, they decided they couldn't install on the side of the building approved by the condo association (and previously OK'e by the gas company) without having some part of the gas line on the neighbor's property (an apartment building). So the last month has been spent working with the gas company to track down who exactly owns the building next door, and see if they will agree to an easement. Still no word yet, but I am hopeful. If that doesn't work out, its back to negotiating a different meter location with the condo association....ugh, I'll be so happy to have THIS part of my remodel out of the way...and get that range installed (...and counters, and backsplash...!)

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* Posted by klb_2000 (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 15, 06 at 23:17

Oh yeah....and here is a link to the new color samples I scanned from a hard copy I picked up at Art Culinaire awhile back....love that Frangipane!

Kelly

Here is a link that might be useful: New Colors
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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Fri, Jun 16, 06 at 10:20

Good luck klb. Can I just say that your hood is TO DIE for? It's beautiful!

And please don't take this the wrong way, but your microwave set up under the hood gave me a chuckle.

Ivette

P.S. WOW those new colors are nice!

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* Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on
Fri, Jun 16, 06 at 15:43

Oh Kelly, you're being so patient. I can't believe that next week you'll be looking at your Cormatin and still uncertain when you'll be able to use it. Hang in there!

Thanks for posting the colors. I'm glad that they weren't available when I ordered our Cluny, or else I would have been forced to design a kitchen around Sologne green - probably much more difficult than ivory (and not found anywhere else in our house - but boy is it gorgeous!)

I'd love to see a Frangipan sample - looks a bit richer than the ivory. They're all beautiful!

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* Posted by bake_sale (My Page) on
Fri, Jun 16, 06 at 16:34

wilsonB - we got our cluny in sologne green. I still love the color but it is much lighter and less green than the sample. I'd call it olive.

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* Posted by alexia717 (My Page) on
Fri, Jun 16, 06 at 21:43

Thanks to everyone's testimonials on this forum, I finally ordered my Lacanche, Cluny 1400, sight unseen. I was not able to locate anyone in NY who would let me see their range (AnnaleeF in Connecticut offered, but was a little too far.) After reading for hours and hours on this site, I finally felt confident that I will be making a right choice in ordering the Lacanche. Ryan from AC helped me choose the right oven for me (I will still order a 30" convection wall oven, for when I entertain) The tough part was the color. I loved the red, but was too scared to get it, so I ordered the black. They have one on reserve, so I will be getting it by the end of September. Hopefully, my construction and cabinets will be done by then!!
I got the classic top with the French simmer plate on top of the warmer. It bothers me that the thing will discolor...I like everything to look clean...so I dont know if I made the right choice by getting that. Other than that, I'm very excited!!!

Again, thanks to all who volunteered their information on the Lacanches.....you guys are a big help!!

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* Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on
Sat, Jun 17, 06 at 10:11

I've been MIA since Mother's Day. Lots of action here!

Ivette...woohooooo! I expect to be invited over for an "in-person" viewing!!

alexia717...congrats! You will absolutely love this range. I also ordered sight unseen and couldn't be happier. I have the FT, too, and I love, love, love using it. Welcome to our family!!

Kelly...are you sure you don't just wnat to keep that set-up with the MW under the hood? LOL!!! Very funny picture! You should save that one for future use! Can't wait to see your beautiful range in that spot!

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* Posted by klb_2000 (My Page) on
Sat, Jun 17, 06 at 15:34

I'm just happy that I was finally able to move my temporary kitchen into my permanent kitchen....and that I have a working sink and dishwasher again! But it will be nice to permanently retire the hotplate!

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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Sat, Jun 17, 06 at 15:52

Deb: Please send me an email, it's time we got together!

Best,
Ivette

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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Sun, Jun 18, 06 at 10:46

Whoo hoo! It worked!!! The Cluny is fully one inch higher than it was and the legs are now adjusted only half way up, so there's room to grow if need be. This height feels good though and the counters are now slightly below the level of the range top, let alone the burners. YAY!

Just had to share. Now, maybe SOMEDAY I'll get to fire this thing up.

Ivette

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* Posted by wascolette (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 22, 06 at 12:16

Looking at the new colors, I was wondering if anyone regrets not being more daring, and getting a color instead of the basic black?

We are still in the building phase. Drywall finally going up in the kitchen. Since my DH is the sole builder of our house, it's been a slow, long process, and he doesn't want to order the Cluny yet. Even though he promises to build the cabinets around the Cluny specs.

Last year they had a beautiful color called Aubergine, which was a deep purple-like color. I was very close to ordering it because it was so beautiful, but as I said, my DH wanted to wait a bit longer. Now I never see it on the reserve list or in the new color samples. Plus I was a little afraid that I would get tired of it and was leaning toward the black anyway.

Does anyone wish they had bit the bullet and gotten one of the beautiful colors instead of black?

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* Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 22, 06 at 15:29

Wascolette...I love my black range; although, I do admit to envy (or lust!) when I see others who get colors! I wish I had the nerve! I'm too much of a chicken! Maybe my next one will be a color!!

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* Posted by velodoug (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 22, 06 at 18:23

DW and I don't regret buying our black Cormatin. We have a small kitchen so limiting the number of colors makes sense. When we're done, we'll have four kitchen colors: black (range, hood, countertops, cabinet hardware), white (sink, backsplash, fridge), natural pine (cabinets) and green (walls). The maple countertop on the range side closely matches the pine. The oak parquet floor extends through the whole living area so it won't "read" as another color in the kitchen.

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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 22, 06 at 19:10

Black is ALWAYS right. You cannot go wrong.

Ivette

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* Posted by elliebell (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 22, 06 at 19:36

I was really considering the Frangipane, but opted for the Black. It just seemed like it would go with everything and I'd never grow tired of it. The stainless and brass look great with the black. Plus, let's not forget it's another $900. for the color. I waffled for two months and signed the sales order today and I am delighted. My copper saute pan and I are counting the days till Madame Lacanche arrives.

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* Posted by lpolk (My Page) on
Fri, Jun 23, 06 at 13:06

elliebell congrats! My black cluny order went in last week. She said she's getting more calls from MA. :)! I too was going to get burgundy first(I also LOVE that frangipane) but the upcharge and not having the color sample until the range got here changed my mind too. The black is classic and lovely, I can't wait until (eek) October! :)

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* Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on
Fri, Jun 23, 06 at 17:24

I'm sure those black clunys are classic, but man oh man, that burgundy! (BTW elliebell, they sent me a sample of the color)

Diversity - ain't it grand.

Joe

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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Fri, Jun 23, 06 at 18:20

Indeed!

Black is beautiful, but I got French Blue!

("Frahnch" blue: anyone else remember Better Off Dead? Or am I dating myself?)

Vive la difference!

Ivette

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* Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on
Fri, Jun 23, 06 at 19:42

John Cusack, 1985

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* Posted by mpsteil (My Page) on
Sat, Jun 24, 06 at 19:35

It's been a long while since I posted, but WOOHOO, we finally installed our Sully +2! Thanks Momto4kids for all your help. LOVE IT. Our cabinets were just installed yesterday - here's a picture of our new range (before the cabinets were installed).

Thank you everyone for all your input - I'm so happy we went for it and bought the range.

pamela

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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Sat, Jun 24, 06 at 20:01

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That is DIVINE.

Congratulations!

Ivette

P.S. You stole my fireplace.

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* Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on
Sun, Jun 25, 06 at 10:24

Pamela - Gorgeous! Congratulations! What a room! Can we see the cabinets too?

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* Posted by annaleef (My Page) on
Sun, Jun 25, 06 at 23:58

pamela,
What a magnificent room this is shaping up to be! The sully +2 combined with that stunning hood - wow. Is that a Lacanche hood or a custom hood? Show us the cabinets, please!

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* Posted by mpsteil (My Page) on
Sat, Jul 1, 06 at 14:19

Thanks! I'll take a picture of the cabinets, but they aren't completely finished yet... We're having a butcher block built to go next to the stove as a corner piece on the left side of the stove (kinda like w/ bulls head - butcher block) and a cabinet for the other side...we're limited on size due to the window there.

The hood was made by a sheetmetal guy friend and painted by my husband (I was nervous), but it came out great! The flooring & beams are from a 150 yr old kentucky tobacco barn. We plan to put an old mantel above the fireplace too... Now I'm picking out the countertop material and tile for the stove backsplace, but will probably due that entire wall with some sort of travertine tile.

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* Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on
Sat, Jul 1, 06 at 17:21

Pamela-
I thought I had posted...but apparently, I didn't.

Your kitchen is FABULOUS! OMIGosh it is so beautiful! Your hood turned out perfectly!

You must be one excited gal!! PLEASE do let us know when you're cooking!!

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* Posted by klb_2000 (My Page) on
Sun, Jul 2, 06 at 14:10

Pamela--your kitchen is truly lovely...I can't wait to see the cabinets installed!

Well, even though the gas line installation STILL isn't resolved, I just couldn't hold off on opening the crate up any longer.....even though I was lucky enough to be able to see these ranges in person before I ordered, I must have forgotten just how pretty they really are! I'm in love. And I checked...ModernAire did a perfect job matching the range hood to the range--same sheen and everything!

Two questions....in experimenting with the wok ring, it doesn't seem to quite fit on any of the burners (I ordered the four burner Cormatin, so I don't have a big burner). I seem to recall someone else having this problem....did Art Culinaire just ship the wrong sized wok ring?

Second, for whatever reason I was surprised to see a big ol' plug sticking out of the back of the range. I thought these needed to be hard wired or something. I haven't removed the panel on the back of the range to look at the electical hook up, but should I be expecting to just be able to plug it in and start baking? Or will it be necessary to hook up some wires behind the back panel first?

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* Posted by velodoug (My Page) on
Sun, Jul 2, 06 at 17:46

We also received a wok ring that didn't fit on the grates of our four-burner Cormatin. I contacted AC and they sent the correct one. The one that was shipped with the range from France which didn't fit was cylindrical (straight sided). The replacement I received from AC which did fit is conical (tapered).

Our Cormatin has a gas oven so it only needed an 120V electrical connection. Nothing was wired when we received it.

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* Posted by velodoug (My Page) on
Mon, Jul 3, 06 at 9:20

klb_2000, I forgot to mention that we also received the wrong Portable Simmer Plate with our four-burner Cormatin. The plate for all of the other Lacanche models, including the three-burner Cormatins, has "ears" on one side that space it away from the adjacent big single grate or French top. The plate for the four-burner Cormatin does not have these "ears." Just like with the wok ring, I contacted AC and they sent me the correct part to replace the wrong one sent from the factory.

FWIW, I seldom use the wok ring because our 12" carbon steel wok nestles nicely down into the opening in the standard grate over the 15,000 BTU burner. We also have a 14" wok that works better with the wok ring but the smaller wok gets noticeably hotter and I seldom stir fry a large enough quantity of food to need the larger wok anyway.

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* Posted by klb_2000 (My Page) on
Mon, Jul 3, 06 at 11:15

Thanks, Doug--sounds like I'll need to get in touch with AC to get the correct wok ring (although who knows if I'll ever really use it!) I didn't examine the simmer plate too closely, but I'll take a look--thanks for the tip!

Regarding the electrical cord, it occurred to me that they must have wired it up in order to calibrate the oven, which I believe they did (AC mentioned something like that on the phone, and "Oven" is hand written on a note on the top of the range, with a check mark next to it. Maybe this was one more advantage of living in WA.

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* Posted by xtenson (My Page) on
Tue, Jul 11, 06 at 22:40

Can anyone please measure and post the interior dimensions of the ovens of the Cluny? I can't seem to find actual dimensions anywhere.

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* Posted by annaleef (My Page) on
Wed, Jul 12, 06 at 0:37

Sure - Cluny interior measurements from their brochure:
16"W x 12"H X 18"D

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* Posted by annaleef (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 14, 06 at 0:21

drec, maringirl, pdjcmb, mwardlb, bertie_d, klb2000, bakesale & ivette:

Pictures - we are all waiting for pictures! I know those Lacanche beauties are installed by now. Waiting for the new crop of kitchens and also anxious to see how you are progressing, pamela (mpsteil).

Ivette, we've been VERY patient - don't you have some in-progress shots to whet our appetite?

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* Posted by mwardlb (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 14, 06 at 14:49

Hello fellow Lacanchers......sadly, our Cluny 1400 is still nestled in its crate in the garage, and a couch is sitting in its place in the kitchen. I often find myself curled up on the couch, daydreaming of the day that the stove will occupy the coveted spot along the wall. I would attach pictures of the sad state of affairs here, but I am techno-unsavvy.

HOWEVER, I do need some help for our next step. Did everyone tile all the way behind the range - to the ground - or just to the top of the stove? We are going to the ground, I think, and just wanted to know what others thought of this.

I have been reading the treads and keeping up with all of the new installs and purchases, but with nothing new to add, I have been quiet. I just keep telling myself "Eventually, it will all be done, clean and beautiful!" Until then, I just curl up on the kitchen couch and dream!!!!
xo
Michele

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* Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 14, 06 at 15:50

Michelle...I haven't gotten the tile guy to commit to a date yet...but when he does...I'm only tiling a course or two below counter height. That will go down low enough to be out of sight...in the unlikely event I move or die and take my range with me...whatever I put in its place won't leave a tile line. I wouldn't waste the tile to the floor if it will never show.

Don't know where my earlier post went...but I checked in to post just what AnnaLee did! Where are the rest of you?!!!

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* Posted by velodoug (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 14, 06 at 16:17

We only tiled down far enough for the tile to disappear behind the back spacer vent because we installed the backsplash with the range in place. We have enough extra tiles stored away to continue it down to below the level of the countertop in the unlikely event that we replace our Lacanche and the new range doesn't have as high a heat riser.

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* Posted by ysop1016 (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 14, 06 at 16:29

Michele,
We have stainless steel from the floor to the cabinets above the Vent-a-Hood. We just figured with the amount of heat generated, it would be best to do it that way.
Our Cluny is almost 4 years old and it's still exciting to cook on it.

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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 14, 06 at 17:56

Hi everyone! I started painting the kitchen cabinets yesterday!! Only you guys can understand exactly how and why this is so exciting! Very pleased with the color, a lovely vanilla cream. Not too white, not too yellow. Ahhhhh.

I PROMISE I am downloading off the digital as we speak! I will post an update soon.

Ivette

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* Posted by annaleef (My Page) on
Sat, Jul 15, 06 at 11:02

Ivette - sounds like a perfect color against your Cluny.

Michele - we also tiled our Jerusalem limestone down just a few courses below the island spacer.

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* Posted by maringirl (My Page) on
Sat, Jul 15, 06 at 11:50

Hi Everyone! We been wrapped up in trying to get our project finished so that we can finally move back in. We've had that "so close yet so far" feeling for several months now. AnnaLee to answer your question, our range has migrated from the garage to the family room, where it sits about 15 feet from its final destination. Our contractor keeps telling us it is about to go in, but then he decides to do "this and that" first. I've promised to make cookies in it for everyone as soon as it is installed, but so far it is not working! Kelly and Pamela, your projects are looking so beautiful! Pitures always inspire me to keep trudging along! Val

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* Posted by klb_2000 (My Page) on
Sat, Jul 15, 06 at 13:30

annaleef, my Cormatin is also still in the garage, but it should be migrating into the kitchen (albeit still with no gas line) sometime next week, which will be a mini accomplishment.

Ivette....can't wait to see some pictures!

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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Sat, Jul 15, 06 at 21:03

Okay, as promised.

We've actually made more progress since this. I promise to post more recent pictures soonest. These are from about two weeks ago. Once I start getting painted cabinet fronts back in, I'll post again. But this gives you a general idea of progress.

Thank you so much for caring!!!!

Ivette

Here is a link that might be useful: Some Progress
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* Posted by klb_2000 (My Page) on
Sat, Jul 15, 06 at 22:17

Oooooohhhhhh...Ivette--it all looks gorgeous! That blue.... wow!

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* Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on
Sun, Jul 16, 06 at 7:58

Ivette! OMGosh!! That's one gorgeous kitchen. I'm still amazed you designed and started shopping while living abroad! I cannot wait to see the finished product! Beautiful range! Kudos to you and DH!!!! (And the little one for having patience when it would be more fun to run wild through the house!)

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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Sun, Jul 16, 06 at 8:21

Awww, thanks guys!

Well, it is in't really gorgeous YET, but it really is getting there. You guys can just envision what it WILL be.

Guess what I did???!! Omg, I messed up so bad! I started painting cabinets and was so excited about it that I just painted away never realizing that I was painting perimeter doors as well as island doors. What's the problem with that you ask? Well, the island was supposed to be a shade darker than the perimeters! LOL! Noooooot anymore they're not! This ECO stuff takes an overnight dry between coats which means it takes two days to paint one door. No way am I wasting two days of work! Besides, it is SUCH a beautiful color. Soooo, I've decided to maybe paint the separate refrigerator cabinet section, which is off by itself on another wall and contains a bookcase, the slightly different color. This could turn into a happy mistake.

Now, the cover story will be that I decided that eeeeeeeveryone does their island a different color, and IIIIIIII wanted to be different. Ergo, I made the CONSCIOUS decision to paint my island the same color and do the different color someplace else. Only you guys (and DH who is razzing me to no end about this, hee hee) will know the truth!

:)
Ivette

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* Posted by annaleef (My Page) on
Sun, Jul 16, 06 at 9:34

That window! That sink! Naturally - that stunning range!
Ivette - it is going to be really, really wonderful - all your dreams materialized. Your patience (& DH's) is unending, to be doing this meticulous paint job yourself!
The wood countertops are a beautiful complement. Is that beadboard on the range wall? To be stained or painted?
Congrats on your progress - we are excited to see what's happening!

klb - a week will fly by!
Val - our Cluny sat 12 feet away for 4 months before install - we simply loved having it close by to see every day instead of in the garage, so it almost did not seem that long.

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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Sun, Jul 16, 06 at 10:49

Thank you thank you! The range wall is solid wood tongue and groove paneling. Believe it or not, the local fire department told us that solid wood, with six inch stainless backsplash directly behind the range, meets their fire resistance requirements. We checked. Oooookay, but I suspect I will either put a sheet of glass behind the range, or I may just tile that area. Just to be safe. I don't know, we'll see which way we go. The wall will be painted.

Thanks so much for noticing the window. We really are delighted with it. Did you catch the window fiasco with the first window we ordered for that space that was nine inches too short? Well, you can see how well worth it it was to suck it up,reorder and just replace the incorrect window.

We had another fiasco with the sink! LOL. I wanted the counter to go over the edges of the sink, but DH got it backward and gave me a positive (or is it negative, I can never remember) reveal! He went on and on, he was SO proud of how careful he was to get the exposed edges of the sink at exactly the same width on three sides. Not easy to do with a hand made sink and your own hand made counter top. I just looked at him, and said "Um, it was supposed to be the total opposite." POOR THING!! Then I just LAUGHED! Cause it's beautiful and I'm delighted and well, it CANNOT be changed. Hee hee. Oh but it gives me something to give him a hard time about and when you are married to Mr. Overachiever, who can resist?

Love to all
Ivette

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* Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on
Sun, Jul 16, 06 at 11:06

Ivette - It's beautiful! All that wonderful natural light to show off your gorgeous cabinets and stove! You must be so excited. (And I love your front door!) Keep us posted. You'll be cooking soon!

Kelly - Any developments on the gas line?

Brenda

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* Posted by pdjcmb (My Page) on
Sun, Jul 16, 06 at 17:18

We are ... cooking. Our kitchen is 95% done, so we should have pictures soon -- but our cluny is fully installed & what fun we are having! Especially with stir fry -- we have such fantastic results with the wok ring over the main burner, we may never order Chinese delivery again. Our lacanche is by far the best thing about our new kitchen ... & we'd never have known about it but for the lacanche threads on this forum!

Ivette - your in-progress pictures are beautiful. And I have to thank you for another reason ... your post from a couple weeks ago about the feet having to change position was so helpful to us; we had a similar issue, and you saved us making (yet another) call to AC. Though I must say, they are very helpful -- we couldn't be happier with their after sales support.

More updates to follow, and I look forward to hearing more about all the other new kitchens, too!

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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Mon, Jul 17, 06 at 16:47

pdjcmb:

I'm glad it helped! We felt very silly about the whole thing, but were so relieved because it was a real problem.

All the best,
Ivette

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* Posted by annaleef (My Page) on
Thu, Jul 20, 06 at 0:26

pdjcmb,
Exciting times in your kitchen. I know your hubby was interested in the French top - probably a little too warm with this heat wave to be using it this week, but I bet it's a great feature to have handy. Didn't you also go with Crown Point cabinets?

Ivette: the details loom very large while we are in the process, but I bet you will not even notice the sink reveal in a few months; there will be so many other wonderful features to enjoy.

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* Posted by pdjcmb (My Page) on
Mon, Jul 24, 06 at 16:26

annaleef,
The heat notwithstanding, we tried out the French top to make a stew in our Le Crueset dutch oven -- the traditional top was a pleasure to use. Once it's cooler weather, we'll do more experimenting. And yes, we did go with Crown Point cabinets -- another choice we're happy with. I've noticed that many who choose lacanche, also choose Crown Point!

For all,
As we've unpacked our cookware to move into the new kitchen, the one piece of cookware we've discovered that must be replaced is our roasting pan (which was far too long for our new oven). Does anyone have a roasting pan they recommend? We need one that will both hold a sizable turkey and fit comfortably in the Cluny.

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* Posted by honeysmomcooks (My Page) on
Mon, Jul 24, 06 at 17:26

Hi all! - I have a silly range hood question for you experts....where do you all find these cool hoods?? We're looking at ordering and installing a Cluny 1400 in Burgundy(went to AC to touch and feel one a couple of months back...ooohhh!! LOVE IT!). Everyone seems to be using Vent-a-Hood, but when I go to their website I don't see ANYTHING like what klb 2000 has - with colors and s-t-y-l-e!! Are you all purchasing VAH for the "guts" of the hoods and then creating a super-cool "cover"?? Think that I received an email from AC a while back pertaining to hoods, but I didn't print it out and it has now vanished! :-) I would really appreciate some insight into this area now that we've FINALLY started to move forward. Thanks!

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* Posted by hostagirl1 (My Page) on
Mon, Jul 24, 06 at 19:55

What is the best height to install a Grohe pot filler over our Lacanche? Some say 18 inches splashes too much....any ideas or suggestions on how it works for you?

Thanks,

Nina

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* Posted by klb_2000 (My Page) on
Mon, Jul 24, 06 at 22:04

Well, my range is STILL sitting in the garage because my contractor hasn't shown up to bring it in yet. And I'm STILL waiting for news on the gas line, although I'm very hopeful that I'll be receiving good news in the next few days.

Honeysmomcooks, awww, thanks for the compliment on the hood. My hood is actually from Modern-Aire. Like Vent a Hood, they are able to match to the RAL colors (I can't remember if the Burgandy is a RAL color or not). Also, since they don't have any local distributors in Seattle, I was able to buy directly from Modern-Aire at considerable savings ( my 30 inch 600 CFM hood was something like $1300, much cheaper for me than the comparable Vent a Hood in a custom color). I think you are in the NW too, so I suspect you might be able to get the same good deal from them, if you are interested.

Ventahood DOES have some very attractive models, including the Excalibur that looks a lot like my hood in terms of the shape -- look at wilsonb's kitchen in the gallery. I think you can probably add on bands if you like for a fee. Last time I looked, not all the models were viewable on the Ventahood website (look at the thread titled something like "VentaHood models discontinued?" for more info on that)

Also, take a look at uncletoad's great painted Ventahood over a red Aga--gorgeous!

Kelly

Here is a link that might be useful: Uncletoad's red aga and hood
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* Posted by velodoug (My Page) on
Tue, Jul 25, 06 at 9:37

A temporary problem with the VAH web site that was blown way out of proportion by one poster to the other thread. It's fixed now. All of the hood styles are viewable.

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* Posted by honeysmomcooks (My Page) on
Tue, Jul 25, 06 at 11:39

klb_2000 - Thanks for directing me over to the Modern Aire website! Now THAT's the sort of thing that I was looking for! Would LOVE to have a matching burgundy hood to go with my range. Yes, we are about 45 minutes drive plus a ferry ride west of Seattle, so should be able to order direct as well. Will contact them this week to find out more.....Good luck to you in finally getting your Lacanche into the house! (and the microwave out to the garage??!!)

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* Posted by plumorchard (My Page) on
Tue, Jul 25, 06 at 16:53

Hi to all...I am now an official "wannabe". I have been drooling over the catalog for the past few days and reading what I can here. I haven't made it through all 32 threads yet but did a quick search and am looking for feedback.

The problem is venting - or the inability to vent specifically. We are not able to vent up/out in our kitchen. We need a ventless/ductless recirculating option. Anyone other Lacanche owners out there with any creative ideas? VAH has no options. Haven't checked with Modern Aire yet. Prestige has one but I was looking for any other ideas. Our space is 30". I would be looking at the Cormatin.

Also, any other Cormatin owners fill an existing spot (30") instead of new/complete remodel? I am drawing out creative ideas to fill that extra 2" that will be left.

DH is thinking I'm nuts since we just got a new JA but these ranges have put a whole new spin on things! It will be great with my hopefully-soon-to-be-installed soapstone countertops.

And finally, anyone in ATL that I could chat with? Warren?

Thanks in advance,
Maria

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* Posted by plumorchard (My Page) on
Thu, Jul 27, 06 at 14:00

Sorry - ignore previous post - I reposted. Take care,

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* Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on
Thu, Jul 27, 06 at 18:00

pdjcmb: I have an allclad model I like and I think it is about as large as will fit a cluny oven. There is a link below for the cheapest allclad I have been able to find.

Maria: we currently have our cluny unvented. We purchased it when our previous oven croaked, but we are not ready for our kitchen renovation yet.When we remodel we will definitely be venting. Currently, what I notice is
a) it gets hot working in front of that puppy without a vent.
b) deep frying odors tend to stick around longer.

It is near a door, which is mostly open (we live in san diego) and we have good ventilation thru our kitchen anyway.

joe

Here is a link that might be useful: allclad outlet store
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* Posted by plumorchard (My Page) on
Thu, Jul 27, 06 at 18:19

Joe - thanks! We are in GA so the door/windows will work well here too!

I've ordered color samples and more info.

Now, I'm trying to figure out a way to convince hubby..... :)

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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Thu, Jul 27, 06 at 18:35

plumorchard:

All I had to do to convince hubby is show him the brochure! LOL! Oh, and the French Blue helped a great deal too. I think he loves this thing even more than I do.

Good luck!
Ivette

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* Posted by plumorchard (My Page) on
Thu, Jul 27, 06 at 19:07

Well, I am trying the full page color pix taped to the backsplash behind the Jenn Air approach too!

Will keep you posted.

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* Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on
Thu, Jul 27, 06 at 23:03

Joe - Is your roasting pan the 16" pan?

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* Posted by pdjcmb (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 28, 06 at 7:21

joe: thank you for the roasting pan recommendation & link to the discount all clad site -- they do have great prices! Like wilsonb, I'm curious whether you have the 14" pan (which the site describes as able to hold a "big" turkey) or the 16" (which it describes as suitable for a "massive" turkey).

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* Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 28, 06 at 12:44

My roasting pan is 16" long x 13" wide. It clears the oven racks on each side by an inch. Cozy, yes but very manageble.

Also, just an FYI, I have the LTD nonstick. (not sure why I thought I needed non stick) It sells for $184.25. Twice a year these people have a sale. Last sale it cost $147.40! The regular all stainless roaster costs $184.25 and was on sale for $147.40. I think their next sale is in fall so if you can wait you can save some additional money. Just get on their mailing list and they will send you notice of the sale.

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* Posted by bake_sale (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 28, 06 at 14:41

Hi all you Lacanchies:

My cooking sheets have both rusted quite quickly. Anyone else have this problem with their sheets?

Also, what do you all think about pairing the enclume baker's sideboard with a cluny? My wife and I like it but a friend came over and said the enclume is too heavy and medieval compared to the french country style of our range. For the record, we have no other pieces with hammered steel or wrought iron.

Thanks for the input.

Eric

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* Posted by velodoug (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 28, 06 at 15:11

bake sale,

There are a couple of 1/8" diameter rust spots on the bottom of the baking steel that came with our Cormatin. I hadn't noticed them until just now when I went to check. The top is well seasoned from making pizzas. It's not pretty but there isn't any rust :-)

The Enclume Bakers Sideboard is a handsome piece, isn't it? One of the many nice things about a Lacanche range is that it fits comfortably into a wide variety of settings. Our little black Cormatin blends just as seamlessly into our funky little knotty pine kitchen as do some of the grander models into elaborate French provincial kitchens. If the sideboard works with the rest of your kitchen, I'll bet it will look good with your range too.

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* Posted by bake_sale (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 28, 06 at 17:05

Velodoug, thanks for the response. We think it's a very nice peice too.

About the sheets, is the blueing finish supposed to come off? Do you think I should remove the rust and then cure the sheets like my frenchtop?

Thanks.

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* Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 28, 06 at 18:21

Joe - Thanks. I'm signing up for the mailing list and counting on the sale before Thanksgiving. We'll see how big a bird will fit inside the Cluny!

Eric - I had never heard of Enclume before, but it's gorgeous. My two cents is that it would look great with your Lacanche. It's open - doesn't look too heavy to me, and has a nice European / country feel that seems to fit the range just fine (but then again I don't know a thing about design!) It's a great piece!

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* Posted by pdjcmb (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 28, 06 at 21:31

Thank you, Joe. We're going to try to hold out for the fall sale too ... but the new cluny practically begs us to try everything out, so we'll see if we manage to wait.

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* Posted by bake_sale (My Page) on
Sat, Jul 29, 06 at 0:04

Wilsonb. Thanks for the encouragement. We had ordered the sideboard, and I was having buying remorse. I'm glad you liked it too.

Eric

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* Posted by velodoug (My Page) on
Sat, Jul 29, 06 at 9:38

"About the sheets, is the blueing finish supposed to come off? Do you think I should remove the rust and then cure the sheets like my frenchtop?"

The blueing (ours looks more like black than blue) is an important part of the baking steet. It helps the bottom of whatever you're baking get really brown. I gave the two rust spots I found yesterday a quick going over with peanut oil on a green scrubbie and lightly coated the rest of the sheet. When we start making pizza indoors again (probably in September) I'll give it another coat before we put it in the oven to preheat. The top surface is already nicely seasoned.

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* Posted by plumorchard (My Page) on
Tue, Aug 1, 06 at 8:45

Can anyone tell me how much of a color variance there is from the samples compared to the actual ranges. AC says the ranges is lighter than the sample but is it a lot, a little ?? Thanks!

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* Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on
Tue, Aug 1, 06 at 11:41

We have ivory, so I'm not sure that it's a good comparison to less neutral colors. Our range seems identical to the sample. (We matched our cabinets to the sample, so we took a bit of a risk, I guess.)

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* Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on
Tue, Aug 1, 06 at 12:18

ditto for us on the color of the burgundy.

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* Posted by vedazu (My Page) on
Tue, Aug 1, 06 at 13:18

Re: Color

I think the colors are remarkably close to what you see on the screen or the samples. (I've got Portuguese Blue). But they aren't so bright when put into place because you don't see them head-on--the sides areusually covered by cabinets and the top is stainless--so you see the color from above. There is nothing garish or bright about these stoves--very elegant in position.

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* Posted by plumorchard (My Page) on
Tue, Aug 1, 06 at 13:53

Sounds like I'm safe with the samples then. I was just curious since she told me the color would be a bit different than the actual. I have a lot of different colors in the area anyway and am working on the perfect fit. The samples I have are great and I've requested a couple more.

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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Tue, Aug 1, 06 at 17:09

Our French blue is pretty much identical to the sample. I think you can safely plan around them.

Ivette

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* Posted by bake_sale (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 2, 06 at 16:58

plumorchard: our color seemed quite different from the color we saw. We ordered that new green color, the lighter one. From the sample it looked like an antique green but the stove came in almost an olive color and was much less green. While we like the color, it did throw off our plannning.

Eric

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* Posted by plumorchard (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 2, 06 at 17:14

Eric,
That is one of the colors I am waiting on. As strange as it sounds we have another green on the cabinets so it would need to match or we will be repainting cabinets. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks!

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* Posted by pirula (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 2, 06 at 17:27

momto4kids:

Anything new on that backsplash? Enquiring (and nosy) minds want to know!

Ivette

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* Posted by maringirl (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 2, 06 at 17:37

plumorchard, we got the sologne green and we planned the whole kitchen around the sample. It worked out well, but now I am curious to hold the sample up to the range, which I haven't done yet (the sample is still at my KD's office). I think the color is soft and beautiful, and it reads fairly neutral. We noticed in our planning though that it did not go well with bluish greens at all. The range is now docked about 1/2 way into its spot awaiting one more row of tile that I didn't even think of until reading these posts! But I have to say that I am really, really happy with the color.

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* Posted by padams (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 3, 06 at 13:25

This forum is going to cost me a fortune now that I am looking at Lacanche. A few questions for the priviledged owners. I am looking at the Sully with a WC (maybe!).

How do you find the cooktop configurations? There are fewer burners as compared to Wolf/Bluestar but more spaced out. Are the burners adequate for a heavy cooking session? If I do this, I am thinking the standard classique configuration with another 18K burner and simmer plate as my 2 options.

What about oven size? They are quite a bit smaller than the Wolf/BS.

How did you find delivery/coordination? Did you order way in advance and store?

Any major preplanning issues?

Thanks in advance!

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* Posted by plumorchard (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 3, 06 at 14:01

A little bummed! I called AC last Friday to request color samples and ask questions. I got the samples fairly quickly. However, I left messages for Ryan and whoever handles service. I haven't heard from either. Anyone know if they are out of the office?

padams - I know what you mean! I'm trying to figure a way to get rid of a range I just got because now I've discovered these. I'm working on it though.

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* Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 3, 06 at 15:06

plumorchard...I know the factory in France closes for the month of August. In the past (can't speak to this year), some of the folks at AC took their vacations during August.

padams...I have the Sully +2 (meaning I have two of the WCs). I configured the top the way I wanted it (the size of which burner in which spot), so I don't remember what the predetermined set-ups are.

I have, and I believe I've used, every accessory. Let me know if you have more questions. I'd be happy to try to answer. So will any of the other folks who hang out here!

I can't recall anyone saying their ovens are too small. I know people have had to get different cookie sheets (for the Cluny)...but I haven't heard anyone with a Sully say that. I haven't had to get new baking sheets or anything. I think people get scared of the "smaller" ovens, but they are plenty large.

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Here is a link to my Lacanche album. I've taken various pictures over the past couple of years to help address others' questions. Hope it helps. If you want to see something else, just ask! Anyone of us will be happy to take a stab!

Ivette...I keep hearing the tilers will be here "any day." Sheesh! It took me two years to decide! My whole backsplash area has been dismantled and waiting, waiting, waiting. Ugh!!!

Here is a link that might be useful: Lacanche Album
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* Posted by padams (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 3, 06 at 18:19

momto4kids,

Thanks so much. Really impressive! This gives me a great feel for the cook space etc. Now if I can just swing the cost (its only money...right?) I started thinking Wolf 48 or 60 then got swayed to Bluestar probably 60 inch ($9,600+- and 2 very hefty 22K burners) and now this. BTW are all of the accessories you showed standard or extra?

How about that heart pine flooring (right?)? Looks great and that is what we are using in a large part of the main floor of our house. I have owned it for about 9 or 10 years now and finally have the perfect application for it. Its all 1X10 and was milled from the beams from an old textile mill in Georgia I believe.

Thanks again...I may have more questions.

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* Posted by plumorchard (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 3, 06 at 19:24

Just noticed some new reserve items were posted since yesterday. FYI

Still waiting on samples and follow up.....not necessarily patiently though.

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* Posted by mwardlb (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 3, 06 at 20:02

Momto4kids: Are those thermometors in your ovens? What type are they? Thanks - Michle

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* Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 3, 06 at 22:16

Good eye! They sure are! They were Taylor with a dial face. I was advised to switch to the Taylor mercury thermometers to get a more accurate reading. Just testing to see if I had hot/cold spots, etc., and whether I have and difference from dial setting to interior temp. I bake a lot of bread, so I tend to keep pretty good notes on "which" of my ovens is performing "how!"

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* Posted by plumorchard (My Page) on
Fri, Aug 4, 06 at 11:23

I finally made it thru the previous posts! The blog stops at 23 and the search here starts at 31. I've missed 24-30. Anyone have these stashed away to share?

I've learned a lot and have a list of questions. You would think after almost 3 years of previous post reviews that I wouldn't have anything left to ask!

Here is the first one - regarding the size of the grates. Is it a problem with small pots? Do you have to use the adapter? I checked the JA this am and there is around 2" or less open above the burner. We do a lot of smaller pot cooking. If you do have to use it - is it sturdy? Does it stay in place?

More to come....

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* Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on
Fri, Aug 4, 06 at 12:01

I have a couple of pots that require the adapter. They work fine. To be honest, I don't know why they didn't just reconfigure the grates to work wth small pots. It's not like it would block that much of the flame IMHO.

You're gonna love it!

Joe

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* Posted by velodoug (My Page) on
Fri, Aug 4, 06 at 12:08

Plumorchard -- The two saucepans we use most frequently on our Lacanche are 5-1/2" and 6" in diameter. Neither one requires the use of the adaptor, which is a stamped piece of stainless steel. It's not elegant looking but it stays in place very well and it does the job.

One thing to watch out for is that pans less than 8" in diameter are only supported by the four "fingers" of the grate. A light weight pan with a heavy cast handle, like some poorly designed nonstick cookware, can tip if there is little or no weight in it and the handle is oriented on a 45 degree diagonal. The solution is simply to orient the handle strainght out to the side. To avoid the problem altogether an easy test when buying cookware is to place two pencils at 90 degrees to each other with the erasers touching and set the pot on them with the center over where the pencils meet and the handle at 45 degrees between them. If it tips it's probably not a good choice.

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* Posted by velodoug (My Page) on
Fri, Aug 4, 06 at 12:11

Joe -- I think it's a European thing. Some older Gaggenau cooktops had a similar arrangement.

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Momto4kids: I saw the images you posted to the web of your vent-a-hood. I need one EXACTLY LIKE IT. The only thing is that it needs to get to Spain. The choices I have here for an exhaust are limited...The intaller wants to put a real professional hood in place. No lights and only an ON switch. Pando is a big brand here in Europe. They are really beautiful but not too efficient, made for small stovetops mostly. So I dont know what to do...should I call Vent-A-Hood and see what they can do for me???

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Oh, absolutely! They were so EXTREMELY helpful to me. Performance is wonderful. But aside from that...I faxed them my specs and asked for guidance as to whether to order two 42-inch liners or one custom-made 84-inch liner at nearly double the cost. While they were perfectly willing to sell me the 84-inch liner and I was perfectly willing to pay for it, they convinced me it wasn't necessary. I give them a lot of credit for not going for the larger sale. By all means...call them! Good luck!

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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Wed, Mar 8, 06 at 15:55


Hi everyone. I thought I'd start off a new Lacanche thread because part 30 is so long now and I need your HELP!
We are finishing up our house and Lacanche kitchen and I need some final design help. I just posted over on the decorating forum but thought since you love the Lacanche you might be able to help me make it fit into our new kitchen.

Here's the link to the post on the decorating thread. Beware it is a long post but it has photos to help you understand what I'm going for.

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/decor/msg0315492119550.html




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And here is the link to Lacanche ranges part 30....


Here is a link that might be useful: Lacanche ranges part 30


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Posted by fishlessman (My Page) on Thu, Mar 9, 06 at 13:26

thanks for the heads up on the forum change, i didnt want my post to get lost with the change so ill repost it here. when i bought my cluny i think we were on part 3 or 4. its grown a bit i see.
ive had my cluny for a few years now, i have the one with the wok style top and was wondering if they make a removable simmer plate to fit over the center. also for those that use the side simmer plate, do you put it over the 2 medium burners or on the other side with the large and small simmer burners. i really like the wok setup for most of the year and use it alot, but for the holidays it would be nice to have that large center simmer plate if one is available. for the person asking about pots and pans, i wouldnt do without a lecreusett pot and braiser, a lodge cast iron skillet and a cheap carbon steel wok. my kitchen aint much, but the stove makes up for it.


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Posted by velodoug (My Page) on Thu, Mar 9, 06 at 14:16

fishlessman -- Art Culinaire does not have a large simmer plate on their web page or in their current price list, but there is one on the UK Lacanche web page. A Google search will turn up several suppliers in the UK if AC can't help.
We put our two burner simmer plate on the side with the large and small burners. The small burner is almost always set to the lowest level. The large burner is set according to what we're doing wih it, but very seldom above half power.




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Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on Thu, Mar 9, 06 at 17:32

fishlessman and doug, do you leave your simmer plates on your ranges all the time? I was thinking of getting a one-burner simmer plate because I do want a burner available that will keep a low simmer, but I'm not sure that I want to dedicate two burners to the simmer plate. The Lacanche simmer plate seems too heavy to take on and off very frequently.
My husband, who rarely cooked before the kitchen was finished, now offers to cook whenever he's home for dinner. He loves the Cluny, but he does grumble about its inability to simmer. I keep promising to adjust the flame (Doug, your kind reminder about how easy it is still rings in my ears), but I haven't adjusted them yet.

The only other issue is the temperature of the gas oven, which does seem to be about 50 degrees off. Do you all just adjust your temps accordingly or have you adjusted your ovens somehow? (About this, I just tell my husband that the oven came all the way from France; what does he expect?)

Other than the simmering issue, we are loving our Cluny. Even the kids agree that our food tastes better. I'm sure it's the range's high heat, which lets us sear better than we ever could before (and which we might have been able to do on any other high BTU range), but we are using both ovens frequently, and boy does that Cluny look great in our kitchen!

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Posted by velodoug (My Page) on Thu, Mar 9, 06 at 18:15

wilsonb -- We have a four-burner Cormatin. In addition to the two-burner simmer plate we also frequently use the two-burner griddle plate and occasionally the two-burner grill plate. The latter two always go on the side with matched 11,000 BTU burners. With six burners worth of accessories and just four burners to work with something has to give. The griddle and grill come off when they need to be cleaned. The simmer plate comes off when we need one of the burners under it for another task.
With some guidance from the folks at AC I calibrated our gas oven using just an accurate thermometer and same screwdriver I use to adjust the top burners. It takes a little longer than adjusting the top burners because the oven temperature has to stabilize between tries, but the whole operation took less than an hour. The temperature is now as close to spot on as I can measure.




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Posted by fishlessman (My Page) on Fri, Mar 10, 06 at 10:46

wilsonb, i moved the simmer plate over to the 11000 btu side last night and and checked to see how low it would simmer a lecrueset dutch oven full of water. it kept it at 195 on the lowest setting.please note that im running the stove on propane and this causes a btu loss. ive had the simmer plate on the other side for a while, but wanted to get some use of the bigger burner over there. you can get the temps up pretty high on the simmer plate and cook on it. start the cook on the bigger burner and transfer to the simmer plate that has been heated up with the burner setting on high. i dont use the griddle plate as i find that a well seasoned cast iron pan is just as good an easier to keep clean. for high temp searing i use a big green egg bbq outdoors that can get up to much higher temps. i dont have a hood and dont like searing indoors with the smoke. i use a maverick dual probe temp gage for the oven and can get temps very accurate with it,



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Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on Fri, Mar 10, 06 at 17:19

doug and fishlessman - Thanks for your responses. We use our griddle all of the time (breakfast is very big in our house), although it isn't yet as well-seasoned as I'd like it to be. Right now, the only oven thermometer that I have is an analog (do you use that term for thermometers?) thermometer that takes some time to record the temperature. I guess that I had better go out and buy a digital thermometer. Is that what you both have?



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Posted by am235 (My Page) on Fri, Mar 10, 06 at 19:49

Hello all,
This is a question for anyone with a Matte Black Lacanche range. Is this color hard to keep clean? Specifically, does it show grease splatter. Does it wipe clean or leave marks on the finish? We are deciding between Matte Black, White or Burgundy Red.



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Posted by velodoug (My Page) on Fri, Mar 10, 06 at 20:06

wilsonb -- Analog is a good descriptive term for non-digital thermometers, and it's the kind I use. Here's a photo of the one I bought fron Fantes. Because the oven temperature cycles up and down in normal operation an analog thermometer that smooths the readings a bit is probably better than a digital instrument.
am235 -- We have a black Cormatin. The color is called matte in the US but the same finish is called satin in France and I think that's more descriptive. In Benjamin-Moore paint terms it's more like a semi-gloss. It is not hard to keep clean at all, and no marks are visible. In comparison, the textured glossy finish on our fridge is a real inconvenience.




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Posted by andrea345 (My Page) on Fri, Mar 10, 06 at 21:24

ditto Doug's comments about the analog thermometer. Our digital one STINKS on the gas range. It's just inaccurate. My cooking times on the gas side are on-spot with recipes, so adjusting per the digital just screws it all up. It's my electric which is 50 degrees off & that's predictable & I know I gotta call it in, but what the hey.
The digital thermometer I got is good, it just can't take the gas cycling. Go with an analog.

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Posted by am235 (My Page) on Sat, Mar 11, 06 at 23:07

Velodoug,
Thank you for the info on black finish. Decided to go with the White. It was the color that first caught our eye and will look great in the kitchen we have planned. Thanks to everyone on this thread (and the others before it), we will soon become owners of a Lacanche Cluny.




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Posted by doubleyellow (My Page) on Sun, Mar 12, 06 at 3:10

The guy who came to put the new stuff on my Sully (unsuccessfully--it turned out) told me that the ovens are always off by what seems like about 50 degrees --and he thinks it is because they don't do the conversion from Centigrade to Fairenheit right -- I said it's pretty easy- just 5/9 or 9/5 and plus or minus 32. He thinks that's exactly the problem - that they forget the 32!! (Which is pretty close to 50--and there is a little wiggle room on the knob)
So the new panels finally came to replace the damage to the original (that was sent to the wrong kitchen, wrong city, storage in a different city, then, all banged up, to me-if anyone remembers the sad story) -- AGAIN messed up!! Crunched. Have to start yet again ordering new panels from France and praying that forklift operators aren't having a rowdy day. Sigh.




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Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on Sun, Mar 12, 06 at 8:27

doubleyellow-How disappointing! I'm sure that AC will get it right, but you must be so anxious to have your range looking perfect. That's interesting about the oven temps - makes perfect sense. Did the tech tell you how to adjust the temps or adjust yours while he was there?
am234 - Congratulations! You're going to love it! We have a Cluny and use its two ovens more than we ever imagined, often using the gas oven as a warming oven. Have fun!
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Posted by klb_2000 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 12, 06 at 13:11

Yay! After many delays and gas line installation worries, I have FINALLY ordered a lovely little 4 burner Ivory and chrome Cormatin....ETA end of May! Yippee!
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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Sun, Mar 12, 06 at 13:25

Congrats to the new Lacanche owners (am235 and klb2000)! am235 -- did you order white or Ivory?



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Posted by pirula (My Page) on Sun, Mar 12, 06 at 15:53

My research seems to indicate that MOST ovens are off by at least 25 degrees farenheit, so Lacanche is no different. All ovens can be recalibrated. My understanding is that the Lacanche can be recalibrated by the homeowner. I can't help you with exact instructions yet, but I know that previous Lacanche threads had details on how to do this. AC can also help.
I'm fully expecting my ovens to be "off" when I FINALLY install it (will that day EVER come????????). Not to worry, it can be adjusted.

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Posted by am235 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 12, 06 at 19:10

azdreamhome,
We decided to get white. It will go with the kitchen we have planned best (modeled after the "Something's Gotta Give" movie kitchen-with some differences). We have ordered white cabinets and plan on black counters, except the island and nook table will be Iroko wood tops. We are putting mahogony planking on the ceiling. The floors are already honed travertine. The backsplash will most likely be tumbled stone in a brick pattern. We are still in the early stages and have not ripped out the old kitchen yet, although DH is itching to do so.




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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Sun, Mar 12, 06 at 20:04

am235 -- the "Something's Gotta Give" kitchen was to-die-for and all your choices sound wonderful. Besides the white cabs, white Lacanche, I love the idea of the mahogany-planked ceiling. Beautiful. We are waiting for an Iroko butcherblock countertop right now to finish off our kitchen (and the Lacanche, of course which won't arrive until April).
I would love to see photos of your kitchen when you are done!




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Posted by am235 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 12, 06 at 23:27

azdreamhome-- As I am new to the forums it will take me some time to figure out how to post photos and add links to go to. As I said, we are just getting going on this remodel and expect it will be quite some time before I have anything to show anyone.
I have been following your kitchen, and it looks great!




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Posted by am235 (My Page) on Wed, Mar 15, 06 at 1:29

azdreamhome--I know I said we decided to get white, but when it came right down to placing the order I got the matte black. Estimated time of arrival-June 10, 2006. I ordered it off of the reserve list. There are just too many shades of white and with the cabinets being white I decided in the end to go for the classic. Everything goes with black. And we are getting black counters. I made the final decision on the range so I'll let DH pick out the stone for the counters.
Now on to ordering the knobs and pulls for the cabinets. I found exactly what I wanted at Van Dyke's Restorers. The sample knob came today and it's just right.

Any ideas on venting? This is what we had been planning to order--Modern Aire PML 40X22 with liner to build in and vent to the outside (range is on an outside wall) with the most powerful motor we can. DH is tall and does not want to hit his head on the hood enclosure so it will be placed as high as possible to still be efficient.




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Posted by am235 (My Page) on Wed, Mar 15, 06 at 14:09

Hi all-- I found that thread 28 talks quite a bit about venting. I'll go read that.



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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Wed, Mar 15, 06 at 16:13

Ah ha! Another matte black convert! :-) I was in LOVE with the burgundy red and when it came time to order I also went with the black. And now that I'm about a month away from having it delivered, I'm really excited about the black. You are right, black works with any kitchen. It's kind of like a neutral in that sense. June will be here before you know it!
Regarding the vent issue, it soulds like you found the right thread. I went on and on about venting there for awhile. But a lot of people have discussed it here on this thread over the years so you should be able to find lots of info in the archives. Good luck!




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Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on Wed, Mar 15, 06 at 16:36

Am-Congratulations! You'll love the black! I have a black one, too!
As for venting...once you figure out which vent system to get (I have VAH), you just need to be sure you have it placed correctly over the footprint of your range. With the back riser or the island spacer, your range will sit forward into the kitchen more than a "standard" range. Therefore, you may want to consider mounting your hood to sit forward as well. Not complicated at all...just not something people initially contemplate. Come back if you have questions. We have plenty of answers!!




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Posted by velodoug (My Page) on Wed, Mar 15, 06 at 18:12

Pulling the hood forward also pulls the duct forward. That may or may not interfere with routing it through the cabinetry. Another approach is to buy a deeper hood. Our 27" deep Vent-A-Hood covers the front of the front burners on our (black) Cormatin.



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Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on Thu, Mar 16, 06 at 6:53

am235- DH is 6'5" and we were worried about the hood height too, but I think that he's found cooking to be comfortable. We have a 24" deep VAH Excalibur (which obviously doesn't cover the front 3" of the range) mounted 31" off the top of the range (my contractors were adamant about sticking to the VAH specs). When I asked him to bump the hood out to 27", the contractor acted like I was crazy, saying that DH would bump his head on it all the time. He promised that he'd come back and build out the hood if it didn't capture all of the smoke, etc. As it turns out, allowing the hood to be a big shallower than the range but mounting it within the specified height was a good decision for us. We've fried bacon and seared meat, and not had any problems with smoke or fumes escaping.



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Posted by mara1331 (My Page) on Thu, Mar 16, 06 at 12:13

Hi all,
We just had our Black Cluny installed last Friday and I think I'm enjoying it.... It's been waiting in the garage for so long I think it's still a dream..
I have many questions, let's start with why is the manual so inadequate? Does anyone else think it's lacking? Secondly, I just can't seem to figure out how to use the burners, plates etc... We have the classique model. I think I'm having trouble with the ovens, I guess they are off too. I will get an oven thermometer. The ovens are small? I think the standard 1/2 pan is slightly too small. I can close the oven door but I think it's sitting on top on the rack end, tilting the pan instead of flatly on the rack. Thanks for any advice that you can give me..
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Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on Thu, Mar 16, 06 at 18:33

Maggie: Congrats!
In what way do you feel the manual is inadequate? Just turn the burners to the heat you need. It may take a bit of practise - it did for me beacuse the level of heat it puts out is greater than what I'm used to. Try cooking things you are familiar with and you will adjust in no time. Can you ask specific questions that we might help you better.

My electric oven is bang on. The gas oven is off somewhere in the vicinity of 25-50 degrees. I plan to adjust it as soon as I find someone to tell me how, although it looks like it is similar to the burner adjustments (Have you viewed the videos from the AC site?) Get a good oven thermometer. The ones from Vons are usesless. Go digital or a high end one like what someone on this thread posted a link to.

I find the oven an okay size, but agree that having a half pan have to situp on the back rack is annoying. I don't bake that much, so I just put a piece of drywall corner bead at the front to even it out. I think I may call AC and see if there is a more elegant way of doing this.

Tomorrow is St Patrick's day and my anniversary. We will be having people over for the traditional corned beef and cabbage, potatoes, irish whiskey and a black and white chocolate Guiness mousse.

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Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on Fri, Mar 17, 06 at 8:17

Hi Maggie. Congrats on your Cluny! Our experience is like Joe's - the electric oven is accurate, but the gas oven is off by about the same amount and, like him, I'll adjust it when I get the time. Until then, I'm just adjusting the temperature up. As far as their size, the ovens are small, but I'm finding it a small trade-off for having two ovens (right under the range-top), which I use frequently.
I often use the gas oven as a warming oven while I'm cooking something else in the electric oven. So far, I've found that the ovens accommodate all of my baking and roasting pans (sometimes with not much room to spare!) I haven't baked cookies or a mass of biscuits yet (which is what I'd use the sheet pans for), but my plan is to use a smaller sheet pan and three racks in whichever oven I use. Enjoy your new range!




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Posted by fishlessman (My Page) on Fri, Mar 17, 06 at 10:46

i have seen so many posts about the oven temps being off with the gas. when turning the gas knob one way then the other you can feel a little play in the knob. with my ovens, i turn the knob past the desired settings and then slowly back down to where i want it set.this compensates for the play in the knob and linkage. they are within 10 degrees of were they should be and thats close enough. put a cast iron pan in there and give it a try, i dont think an empty oven is a good way to check temps, you need some heat mass in there. just remember that the oven temps go up and down when the burners go on and off. with regards to the oven racks, mine are a few years old and maybe there have been changes, but mine push back to a stop, and by pushing a little harder, they will go in a little farther. when using a half sheet, it does sit flat



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Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on Fri, Mar 17, 06 at 13:17

maggie: I sent an email to Steve at AC asking about adjusting the gas oven and also the issue with the cookie sheet. The cookie sheet thing turns out to be the easiest - just push the oven rack farther back! There is a slight catch that keeps the rack where you and I have been using it, but just another push and that puppy goes all the way to the back allowing a nice, flat cookie sheet.
Here is the portion of the email concerning adjusting the oven, which sounds more complicated than it really is. BTW, if my oven was off by only 25 degrees I probably wouldn't even bother. Most ovens will heat to 20 degrees above the set temperature and then not come back on until 20 degrees below the set temperature, so there is a big built in range. The main idea though, is that the average temperature be what the oven is set to. Anyway, the instructions:

1) Place the oven thermometer on the oven rack in the center of the oven. (You won't need to do this if you have the new hand-held digital thermometer.)
2) Turn the oven control knob to the 350 degree setting.
3) Listen for the oven burner to stop heating. (If you put your ear near the bottom of the oven door you can hear the gas burning/flowing.) It will stop when the thermostat senses the oven has reached 350 degrees (about 10-12 minutes).
4) Open the door enough to see what temperature your thermometer shows.
5) To make an adjustment, turn the knob back to the "Off" position. (This is done so the shaft doesn't rotate as you are adjusting it.)
6) Carefully pull off the oven control knob. Place your screwdriver down the center shaft of the control knob and go all the way to the back. Find the slot by turning your screwdriver until it drops in the slotted screw.
7) Rotate the screw counter-clockwise approximately 10 degrees (on a 360 degree dial) for every 25 degrees of temperature change. This is pretty much a hit or miss adjustment since you're going by feel. I tell people it feels like you're moving it about 1/16 of an inch.
8) Put your knob back on and turn the oven back on to the 350 degree setting.
9) Listen for the gas to shut off and open the door to see where it turned off. Hopefully it was at 340-350 degrees. If a little less, repeat the steps above.
10) If it's over 350 degrees, you went too far and you'll need to find the screw and adjust it back clockwise until you hit close to 350 degrees.

If you'd like to take a look at a Technical Bulletin explaining this you can go to www.frenchranges.com/support where you will click on "After Sales Service" and enter the user name and password they sent you to access the Technical Suport Page. Look under "Third Party Manuals" and click on Harper Generation Six Oven System - Field Service Bulletin.

Hope that helps,

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Posted by am235 (My Page) on Fri, Mar 17, 06 at 14:15

Thanks everyone for the venting advice. We are going to order a Modern Aire hood liner. PML 40X22 with a 600 or 1000 CFM motor and center it over the burners. It was the only manufacturer I checked out that actually recommended placing the liner 30-36 inches off the range top. We plan to put it at 36 inches so will probably get the bigger motor just to be safe. Since the only cabinetry over the range is what encloses the vent we will have plenty of room for the liner to be positioned how we need it. We allowed for several inches on each side of the range and can place the hood at any depth we need. We will be building the hood surround around the liner.



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Posted by nicksgram51 (My Page) on Sat, Mar 18, 06 at 11:41

Good morning folks,
now that i have been using my beautiful burgundy Cluny 1400 for about a month,i'm having a hard time getting good results from any cleaner or stainless steel polish to get a streak free stainless steel top. the stainless cover over the french top is rather rough in texture vs. the inside surround of the burners which is a smoother texture.even the vents in the back and spacer looks sort of streaky to me. nothing so far works well. i've even used microfiber cloths with just plain water and a dry towel, nope, didn't work. give me some of your results and what you use to get a streak free top. thank you in advance, marilyn



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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Sat, Mar 18, 06 at 12:49

I'll be interested to hear how others clean theirs also (we will have ours delivered next month, ordered June '05, started drooling over Lacanche a few months before that). I don't like a dirty looking range. And I'm guessing I will "baby" the Lacanche for a while. I've been waiting so long for it (Cluny 1400 also). Are you enjoying cooking on/with it?



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Posted by andrea345 (My Page) on Sat, Mar 18, 06 at 12:50

nicksgram51,
I don't have the FT, but we use 409 on our stainless cover with a regular old cotton terry cloth & it comes up streak free. We do use a lot of 409 on it if we've made a greasy mess.
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Posted by nicksgram51 (My Page) on Sat, Mar 18, 06 at 20:16

Azdreamhome,
i love it! getting used to the different btu burners, but, i also need to adjust the simmer burner as well as the gas oven, 25 degrees lower than supposed to be. browning and searing is very quick. i love the warming cupboard, until yesterday i used it just for warming bread and rolls for dinner, but, i decided to try and slow cook all day with my Le Crueset, and a pot roast. it worked wonderful, (so did the LC)...
i like the electric oven for baking, i always had a gas oven, which to be honest, haven't noticed a big difference between the two as far as results. but, they are both fine for me. i made a couple of cakes and they came out beautiful. the next thing i want to try is homemade bread. i think i remember somewhere it was said, the electric is better for baking bread. correct me if i'm not right on that one. i just seasoned my french top for the first time yesterday as well,(smeared mineral oil all over it, and let it cook for a couple of hours.
i'm very happy with this range, i love the color, the ease of everything,(except the streaky stainless steel)but, i'm sure i'll get good advice here. i'll even try 409. marilyn



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Posted by debbie814 (My Page) on Sat, Mar 18, 06 at 21:13

Can someone please give me the depth of the Cluny. I can't seem to find the depth on the AC website, and it's too late to call them this evening. Thanks, Debbie



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Posted by klb_2000 (My Page) on Sat, Mar 18, 06 at 23:03

Debbie, check the Cluny specs posted on the "support" page (kind of hidden if you don't know where to look for it!)


Here is a link that might be useful: Lacanche Support page


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Posted by debbie814 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 19, 06 at 7:21

Thanks!



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Posted by mara1331 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 19, 06 at 13:53

Thanks Joe, for all your help!
I bought a good oven thermometer and found that the electric oven is 25 degrees slow, and the gas oven is 75 degrees fast! That's quite a spread... I'll print out your directions and see if my partner can do the trick!
What's the deal with the drip pans and racks? Must we use those? Do they stay in the oven?
I didn't buy any of the optional grills etc. with the range, will any work with the range?
Thanks again,
Maggie



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Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on Sun, Mar 19, 06 at 13:58

Marilyn, I've been using just a sponge and some dish soap to get the big grease and then just a damp microfiber cloth to shine it up. I'm not sure why that's not working for you. When I first got it (and still occasionally) I'll use Stainless Steel Magic, which also seems to work fine. I've also had good luck using Barkeeper's Friend (gently) on the burner caps, which gets the brass looking like new (although I'm not sure how long I'll be this fastidious!). But for now, everything still looks like new!



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Posted by krobson (My Page) on Sun, Mar 19, 06 at 20:45

Hi,
I'm new to this, so forgive a possibly silly question. Is the Lacanche oven easy to clean? Does anyone miss having a self-cleaning oven? I am considering a Cluny for my new house, but am worried about the non-self cleaning aspect.



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Posted by nicksgram51 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 19, 06 at 21:06

wilsonb,
i could be a little over the top,since it's so new. i went 2 steps more than i probably will not continue to do. i got a hold of the brass gas burners, cleaned them with barkeepers' friend, that wasn't enough, i kept looking for more work, i then cleaned them with metal polish,(the kind you use for cleaning the metal on cars), then had to polish them with brasso. they shined like a new penny! this craziness won't last too long. marilyn:)



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Posted by pirula (My Page) on Sun, Mar 19, 06 at 21:27

OMG!!
It's
in
the
KITCHEN!!!!!

It really is! And it's still blue and beautiful! Totally not hooked up, but who cares?? it's even in it's "place" !!

Oh happy day!
Ivette




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Posted by nicksgram51 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 19, 06 at 21:55

congratulations, Ivette,
it's so exciting to finally see it in your kitchen, like someone gives us a long awaited Christmas gift. wait until you actually see a burner light up!!! many happy cooking years!!! marilyn



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Posted by annaleef (My Page) on Sun, Mar 19, 06 at 22:47

Ivette, there you are!
Yes, that reassuring little red light is about to warm your heart every time you pass it. Ain't love grand!
This must mean you finished painting those Crowne Point cabinets! Can't wait to see your classic kitchen.
krobson - I think the oven is pretty easy to clean, but then I never bothered to use the self-cleaning feature on old ovens.

cleaning the brass burners - DH wants them to develop a patina of use, so we stopped going crazy with polishing last year.




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Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on Mon, Mar 20, 06 at 6:33

Ivette - Congratulations! Do you have pictures posted somewhere? When will you be cooking??
Krobson - The self-clean feature on my old oven never cleaned it fully. I simply wipe down the inside of my Cluny ovens once in a while and they seem to keep clean. There used to be a lot of discussion on the forum generally about the pros and cons of self-cleaning ovens. Many people deliberately avoid self-cleaning ovens while others wouldn't live without them. I think those people with Lacanches have found that keeping their ovens clean isn't a problem. Good luck with your decision!


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Posted by klb_2000 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 12, 06 at 13:11

Yay! After many delays and gas line installation worries, I have FINALLY ordered a lovely little 4 burner Ivory and chrome Cormatin....ETA end of May! Yippee!
Kelly




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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Sun, Mar 12, 06 at 13:25

Congrats to the new Lacanche owners (am235 and klb2000)! am235 -- did you order white or Ivory?



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Posted by pirula (My Page) on Sun, Mar 12, 06 at 15:53

My research seems to indicate that MOST ovens are off by at least 25 degrees farenheit, so Lacanche is no different. All ovens can be recalibrated. My understanding is that the Lacanche can be recalibrated by the homeowner. I can't help you with exact instructions yet, but I know that previous Lacanche threads had details on how to do this. AC can also help.
I'm fully expecting my ovens to be "off" when I FINALLY install it (will that day EVER come????????). Not to worry, it can be adjusted.

All the best,
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Posted by am235 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 12, 06 at 19:10

azdreamhome,
We decided to get white. It will go with the kitchen we have planned best (modeled after the "Something's Gotta Give" movie kitchen-with some differences). We have ordered white cabinets and plan on black counters, except the island and nook table will be Iroko wood tops. We are putting mahogony planking on the ceiling. The floors are already honed travertine. The backsplash will most likely be tumbled stone in a brick pattern. We are still in the early stages and have not ripped out the old kitchen yet, although DH is itching to do so.




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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Sun, Mar 12, 06 at 20:04

am235 -- the "Something's Gotta Give" kitchen was to-die-for and all your choices sound wonderful. Besides the white cabs, white Lacanche, I love the idea of the mahogany-planked ceiling. Beautiful. We are waiting for an Iroko butcherblock countertop right now to finish off our kitchen (and the Lacanche, of course which won't arrive until April).
I would love to see photos of your kitchen when you are done!




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Posted by am235 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 12, 06 at 23:27

azdreamhome-- As I am new to the forums it will take me some time to figure out how to post photos and add links to go to. As I said, we are just getting going on this remodel and expect it will be quite some time before I have anything to show anyone.
I have been following your kitchen, and it looks great!




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Posted by am235 (My Page) on Wed, Mar 15, 06 at 1:29

azdreamhome--I know I said we decided to get white, but when it came right down to placing the order I got the matte black. Estimated time of arrival-June 10, 2006. I ordered it off of the reserve list. There are just too many shades of white and with the cabinets being white I decided in the end to go for the classic. Everything goes with black. And we are getting black counters. I made the final decision on the range so I'll let DH pick out the stone for the counters.
Now on to ordering the knobs and pulls for the cabinets. I found exactly what I wanted at Van Dyke's Restorers. The sample knob came today and it's just right.

Any ideas on venting? This is what we had been planning to order--Modern Aire PML 40X22 with liner to build in and vent to the outside (range is on an outside wall) with the most powerful motor we can. DH is tall and does not want to hit his head on the hood enclosure so it will be placed as high as possible to still be efficient.




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Posted by am235 (My Page) on Wed, Mar 15, 06 at 14:09

Hi all-- I found that thread 28 talks quite a bit about venting. I'll go read that.



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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Wed, Mar 15, 06 at 16:13

Ah ha! Another matte black convert! :-) I was in LOVE with the burgundy red and when it came time to order I also went with the black. And now that I'm about a month away from having it delivered, I'm really excited about the black. You are right, black works with any kitchen. It's kind of like a neutral in that sense. June will be here before you know it!
Regarding the vent issue, it soulds like you found the right thread. I went on and on about venting there for awhile. But a lot of people have discussed it here on this thread over the years so you should be able to find lots of info in the archives. Good luck!




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Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on Wed, Mar 15, 06 at 16:36

Am-Congratulations! You'll love the black! I have a black one, too!
As for venting...once you figure out which vent system to get (I have VAH), you just need to be sure you have it placed correctly over the footprint of your range. With the back riser or the island spacer, your range will sit forward into the kitchen more than a "standard" range. Therefore, you may want to consider mounting your hood to sit forward as well. Not complicated at all...just not something people initially contemplate. Come back if you have questions. We have plenty of answers!!




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Posted by velodoug (My Page) on Wed, Mar 15, 06 at 18:12

Pulling the hood forward also pulls the duct forward. That may or may not interfere with routing it through the cabinetry. Another approach is to buy a deeper hood. Our 27" deep Vent-A-Hood covers the front of the front burners on our (black) Cormatin.



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Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on Thu, Mar 16, 06 at 6:53

am235- DH is 6'5" and we were worried about the hood height too, but I think that he's found cooking to be comfortable. We have a 24" deep VAH Excalibur (which obviously doesn't cover the front 3" of the range) mounted 31" off the top of the range (my contractors were adamant about sticking to the VAH specs). When I asked him to bump the hood out to 27", the contractor acted like I was crazy, saying that DH would bump his head on it all the time. He promised that he'd come back and build out the hood if it didn't capture all of the smoke, etc. As it turns out, allowing the hood to be a big shallower than the range but mounting it within the specified height was a good decision for us. We've fried bacon and seared meat, and not had any problems with smoke or fumes escaping.



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Posted by mara1331 (My Page) on Thu, Mar 16, 06 at 12:13

Hi all,
We just had our Black Cluny installed last Friday and I think I'm enjoying it.... It's been waiting in the garage for so long I think it's still a dream..
I have many questions, let's start with why is the manual so inadequate? Does anyone else think it's lacking? Secondly, I just can't seem to figure out how to use the burners, plates etc... We have the classique model. I think I'm having trouble with the ovens, I guess they are off too. I will get an oven thermometer. The ovens are small? I think the standard 1/2 pan is slightly too small. I can close the oven door but I think it's sitting on top on the rack end, tilting the pan instead of flatly on the rack. Thanks for any advice that you can give me..
Maggie



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Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on Thu, Mar 16, 06 at 18:33

Maggie: Congrats!
In what way do you feel the manual is inadequate? Just turn the burners to the heat you need. It may take a bit of practise - it did for me beacuse the level of heat it puts out is greater than what I'm used to. Try cooking things you are familiar with and you will adjust in no time. Can you ask specific questions that we might help you better.

My electric oven is bang on. The gas oven is off somewhere in the vicinity of 25-50 degrees. I plan to adjust it as soon as I find someone to tell me how, although it looks like it is similar to the burner adjustments (Have you viewed the videos from the AC site?) Get a good oven thermometer. The ones from Vons are usesless. Go digital or a high end one like what someone on this thread posted a link to.

I find the oven an okay size, but agree that having a half pan have to situp on the back rack is annoying. I don't bake that much, so I just put a piece of drywall corner bead at the front to even it out. I think I may call AC and see if there is a more elegant way of doing this.

Tomorrow is St Patrick's day and my anniversary. We will be having people over for the traditional corned beef and cabbage, potatoes, irish whiskey and a black and white chocolate Guiness mousse.

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Joe




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Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on Fri, Mar 17, 06 at 8:17

Hi Maggie. Congrats on your Cluny! Our experience is like Joe's - the electric oven is accurate, but the gas oven is off by about the same amount and, like him, I'll adjust it when I get the time. Until then, I'm just adjusting the temperature up. As far as their size, the ovens are small, but I'm finding it a small trade-off for having two ovens (right under the range-top), which I use frequently.
I often use the gas oven as a warming oven while I'm cooking something else in the electric oven. So far, I've found that the ovens accommodate all of my baking and roasting pans (sometimes with not much room to spare!) I haven't baked cookies or a mass of biscuits yet (which is what I'd use the sheet pans for), but my plan is to use a smaller sheet pan and three racks in whichever oven I use. Enjoy your new range!




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Posted by fishlessman (My Page) on Fri, Mar 17, 06 at 10:46

i have seen so many posts about the oven temps being off with the gas. when turning the gas knob one way then the other you can feel a little play in the knob. with my ovens, i turn the knob past the desired settings and then slowly back down to where i want it set.this compensates for the play in the knob and linkage. they are within 10 degrees of were they should be and thats close enough. put a cast iron pan in there and give it a try, i dont think an empty oven is a good way to check temps, you need some heat mass in there. just remember that the oven temps go up and down when the burners go on and off. with regards to the oven racks, mine are a few years old and maybe there have been changes, but mine push back to a stop, and by pushing a little harder, they will go in a little farther. when using a half sheet, it does sit flat



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Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on Fri, Mar 17, 06 at 13:17

maggie: I sent an email to Steve at AC asking about adjusting the gas oven and also the issue with the cookie sheet. The cookie sheet thing turns out to be the easiest - just push the oven rack farther back! There is a slight catch that keeps the rack where you and I have been using it, but just another push and that puppy goes all the way to the back allowing a nice, flat cookie sheet.
Here is the portion of the email concerning adjusting the oven, which sounds more complicated than it really is. BTW, if my oven was off by only 25 degrees I probably wouldn't even bother. Most ovens will heat to 20 degrees above the set temperature and then not come back on until 20 degrees below the set temperature, so there is a big built in range. The main idea though, is that the average temperature be what the oven is set to. Anyway, the instructions:

1) Place the oven thermometer on the oven rack in the center of the oven. (You won't need to do this if you have the new hand-held digital thermometer.)
2) Turn the oven control knob to the 350 degree setting.
3) Listen for the oven burner to stop heating. (If you put your ear near the bottom of the oven door you can hear the gas burning/flowing.) It will stop when the thermostat senses the oven has reached 350 degrees (about 10-12 minutes).
4) Open the door enough to see what temperature your thermometer shows.
5) To make an adjustment, turn the knob back to the "Off" position. (This is done so the shaft doesn't rotate as you are adjusting it.)
6) Carefully pull off the oven control knob. Place your screwdriver down the center shaft of the control knob and go all the way to the back. Find the slot by turning your screwdriver until it drops in the slotted screw.
7) Rotate the screw counter-clockwise approximately 10 degrees (on a 360 degree dial) for every 25 degrees of temperature change. This is pretty much a hit or miss adjustment since you're going by feel. I tell people it feels like you're moving it about 1/16 of an inch.
8) Put your knob back on and turn the oven back on to the 350 degree setting.
9) Listen for the gas to shut off and open the door to see where it turned off. Hopefully it was at 340-350 degrees. If a little less, repeat the steps above.
10) If it's over 350 degrees, you went too far and you'll need to find the screw and adjust it back clockwise until you hit close to 350 degrees.

If you'd like to take a look at a Technical Bulletin explaining this you can go to www.frenchranges.com/support where you will click on "After Sales Service" and enter the user name and password they sent you to access the Technical Suport Page. Look under "Third Party Manuals" and click on Harper Generation Six Oven System - Field Service Bulletin.

Hope that helps,

Joe




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Posted by am235 (My Page) on Fri, Mar 17, 06 at 14:15

Thanks everyone for the venting advice. We are going to order a Modern Aire hood liner. PML 40X22 with a 600 or 1000 CFM motor and center it over the burners. It was the only manufacturer I checked out that actually recommended placing the liner 30-36 inches off the range top. We plan to put it at 36 inches so will probably get the bigger motor just to be safe. Since the only cabinetry over the range is what encloses the vent we will have plenty of room for the liner to be positioned how we need it. We allowed for several inches on each side of the range and can place the hood at any depth we need. We will be building the hood surround around the liner.



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Posted by nicksgram51 (My Page) on Sat, Mar 18, 06 at 11:41

Good morning folks,
now that i have been using my beautiful burgundy Cluny 1400 for about a month,i'm having a hard time getting good results from any cleaner or stainless steel polish to get a streak free stainless steel top. the stainless cover over the french top is rather rough in texture vs. the inside surround of the burners which is a smoother texture.even the vents in the back and spacer looks sort of streaky to me. nothing so far works well. i've even used microfiber cloths with just plain water and a dry towel, nope, didn't work. give me some of your results and what you use to get a streak free top. thank you in advance, marilyn



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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Sat, Mar 18, 06 at 12:49

I'll be interested to hear how others clean theirs also (we will have ours delivered next month, ordered June '05, started drooling over Lacanche a few months before that). I don't like a dirty looking range. And I'm guessing I will "baby" the Lacanche for a while. I've been waiting so long for it (Cluny 1400 also). Are you enjoying cooking on/with it?



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Posted by andrea345 (My Page) on Sat, Mar 18, 06 at 12:50

nicksgram51,
I don't have the FT, but we use 409 on our stainless cover with a regular old cotton terry cloth & it comes up streak free. We do use a lot of 409 on it if we've made a greasy mess.
-a




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Posted by nicksgram51 (My Page) on Sat, Mar 18, 06 at 20:16

Azdreamhome,
i love it! getting used to the different btu burners, but, i also need to adjust the simmer burner as well as the gas oven, 25 degrees lower than supposed to be. browning and searing is very quick. i love the warming cupboard, until yesterday i used it just for warming bread and rolls for dinner, but, i decided to try and slow cook all day with my Le Crueset, and a pot roast. it worked wonderful, (so did the LC)...
i like the electric oven for baking, i always had a gas oven, which to be honest, haven't noticed a big difference between the two as far as results. but, they are both fine for me. i made a couple of cakes and they came out beautiful. the next thing i want to try is homemade bread. i think i remember somewhere it was said, the electric is better for baking bread. correct me if i'm not right on that one. i just seasoned my french top for the first time yesterday as well,(smeared mineral oil all over it, and let it cook for a couple of hours.
i'm very happy with this range, i love the color, the ease of everything,(except the streaky stainless steel)but, i'm sure i'll get good advice here. i'll even try 409. marilyn



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Posted by debbie814 (My Page) on Sat, Mar 18, 06 at 21:13

Can someone please give me the depth of the Cluny. I can't seem to find the depth on the AC website, and it's too late to call them this evening. Thanks, Debbie



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Posted by klb_2000 (My Page) on Sat, Mar 18, 06 at 23:03

Debbie, check the Cluny specs posted on the "support" page (kind of hidden if you don't know where to look for it!)


Here is a link that might be useful: Lacanche Support page


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Posted by debbie814 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 19, 06 at 7:21

Thanks!



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Posted by mara1331 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 19, 06 at 13:53

Thanks Joe, for all your help!
I bought a good oven thermometer and found that the electric oven is 25 degrees slow, and the gas oven is 75 degrees fast! That's quite a spread... I'll print out your directions and see if my partner can do the trick!
What's the deal with the drip pans and racks? Must we use those? Do they stay in the oven?
I didn't buy any of the optional grills etc. with the range, will any work with the range?
Thanks again,
Maggie



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Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on Sun, Mar 19, 06 at 13:58

Marilyn, I've been using just a sponge and some dish soap to get the big grease and then just a damp microfiber cloth to shine it up. I'm not sure why that's not working for you. When I first got it (and still occasionally) I'll use Stainless Steel Magic, which also seems to work fine. I've also had good luck using Barkeeper's Friend (gently) on the burner caps, which gets the brass looking like new (although I'm not sure how long I'll be this fastidious!). But for now, everything still looks like new!



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Posted by krobson (My Page) on Sun, Mar 19, 06 at 20:45

Hi,
I'm new to this, so forgive a possibly silly question. Is the Lacanche oven easy to clean? Does anyone miss having a self-cleaning oven? I am considering a Cluny for my new house, but am worried about the non-self cleaning aspect.



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Posted by nicksgram51 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 19, 06 at 21:06

wilsonb,
i could be a little over the top,since it's so new. i went 2 steps more than i probably will not continue to do. i got a hold of the brass gas burners, cleaned them with barkeepers' friend, that wasn't enough, i kept looking for more work, i then cleaned them with metal polish,(the kind you use for cleaning the metal on cars), then had to polish them with brasso. they shined like a new penny! this craziness won't last too long. marilyn:)



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Posted by pirula (My Page) on Sun, Mar 19, 06 at 21:27

OMG!!
It's
in
the
KITCHEN!!!!!

It really is! And it's still blue and beautiful! Totally not hooked up, but who cares?? it's even in it's "place" !!

Oh happy day!
Ivette




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Posted by nicksgram51 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 19, 06 at 21:55

congratulations, Ivette,
it's so exciting to finally see it in your kitchen, like someone gives us a long awaited Christmas gift. wait until you actually see a burner light up!!! many happy cooking years!!! marilyn



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Posted by annaleef (My Page) on Sun, Mar 19, 06 at 22:47

Ivette, there you are!
Yes, that reassuring little red light is about to warm your heart every time you pass it. Ain't love grand!
This must mean you finished painting those Crowne Point cabinets! Can't wait to see your classic kitchen.
krobson - I think the oven is pretty easy to clean, but then I never bothered to use the self-cleaning feature on old ovens.

cleaning the brass burners - DH wants them to develop a patina of use, so we stopped going crazy with polishing last year.




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Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on Mon, Mar 20, 06 at 6:33

Ivette - Congratulations! Do you have pictures posted somewhere? When will you be cooking??
Krobson - The self-clean feature on my old oven never cleaned it fully. I simply wipe down the inside of my Cluny ovens once in a while and they seem to keep clean. There used to be a lot of discussion on the forum generally about the pros and cons of self-cleaning ovens. Many people deliberately avoid self-cleaning ovens while others wouldn't live without them. I think those people with Lacanches have found that keeping their ovens clean isn't a problem. Good luck with your decision!


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Posted by andrea345 (My Page) on Mon, Mar 20, 06 at 9:26

Ivette - Whoo-hoo! I hope champagne was involved. When are you getting hooked up. Don't forget that the electrical sometimes takes longer than the gas.
krobsen - I was never that impressed with the self-clean. I wasn't about to go through the ordeal of heat up / cool down for the greasy splatters of everyday use. I just wiped it down. I used it only once - when the range was headed out the door.

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Posted by edleweiss (My Page) on Mon, Mar 20, 06 at 10:03

Hello,
I'm so glad I found this forum! My new house comes with a Lacanche, and it seemed so hard to find out anything about them until I found your group. It's really great to hear that you all like them so much. I've figures out that my range is a Cluny. We're doing some remodelling, and my husband wants some advice from those of you who have moved your CLunys around (ie, from garage to house, etc.) How much does this thing weigh, how many people are necessary, and/or what is the best technique for transporting it? Thanks a lot!

thank you.




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Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on Mon, Mar 20, 06 at 11:51

edleweiss: By the time you remove the drawers, doors and top stuff it gets down to about 250 pounds.(note that is also probably attached to the wall, to avoid tipping over, behind the bottom lefthand drawer) Two strong men could move it, but it is awkward because you can't lift by any of the handles. An appliance dolly would work also.
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Posted by bertie_d (My Page) on Mon, Mar 20, 06 at 13:55

Hi All...It has been awhile since I posted here. We are having our kitchen remodeled while we are in Indian Wells, CA for the winter. Pros are..I don't have to do any campstove cooking or dealing with the mess. cons are..it is driving me crazy not being able to peek at the blue Clooney!! We won't return to Oregon until May 15th or so..we will hopefully walk into a completed kitchen with everything new!!!( any bets on the completion date?)at least that is the plan and so far so good. I still love reading all of your good advice and sharing the excitement with you who now have your La Canches in operation. Congratulations. Bertie



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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Mon, Mar 20, 06 at 15:42

Ivette -- congrats on getting your Lacanche into your kitchen and in its rightful place. Can't wait to see photos and hear how it goes when you finally fire it up!
On another note, I spoke to someone this morning at AC. We were talking about shipping our range and I was apologizing that we've had ours purchased and stored up there in Woodinville for so long (since June 05). He said there have been others that have had theirs in storage longer. He mentioned an actor on TV (a well known evening drama....legal program) that has the exact same range as I do (Cluny 1400 matte black, classique, warming cupboard on the left, with brass). Is it in bad taste to mention his name here? I kind of feel it would infringe on his privacy. Nevertheless, I got a kick out of finding this out. It must say something shallow about me! ;-) That range will have a new home in Beverly Hills, of course.





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Posted by andrea345 (My Page) on Mon, Mar 20, 06 at 20:38

edelweiss,
Adding to Joe's point about not lifting the range by the handles b/c it voids the warranty. You should be able to contact Art Culinaire, if the appliance was purchased in the U.S., and have them send you more information about the range. Do you have their website?
Welcome back Bertie. So, it's about ten more weeks. Kewl.

azdreamhome,
I wouldn't advertise the name. It's cool, but then these threads are always popping up on google searches. I don't know if it's "shallow" or not, I just think it would be exciting to find out you have similar tastes with someone who's "well-known."

Take care,
-a



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Posted by edleweiss (My Page) on Tue, Mar 21, 06 at 12:17

Thanks for the information! What "top stuff" do you remove, exactly? I did find the AC website, and found it surprisingly poor. I have also called and emailed, but no response at all. Weird. It all seems very closed and user-unfriendly, especailly when you can download any information on any other appliance in just a matter of moments! This is why I'm glad you all love these ranges, because the way they seem to be marketed and sold made me rather nervous.
A manual, and the information I have read about on this thread for adjusting the burners would be nice. Can one get these online? Would someone who has downloaded these thing be willing to post them?

Thanks again! I'll be much happier when my questions actually involve food!




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Posted by pirula (My Page) on Tue, Mar 21, 06 at 12:52

Thanks everyone!!
Noooo, I haven't even started painting the cabinets yet. The range is just "in place, but not installed" yet. That is a little ways off. But I was just SO excited to get it out of the garage and in the place where it will eventually be plugged in and the little red light will come on.

I have lots of pics. Will try to upload soon.

Best,
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Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on Tue, Mar 21, 06 at 15:53

edleweiss: top stuff - grates and french top, if you have one. Try calling AC and ask for Steve Wick. He is usually very helpful. Ask him if he can give you the logon and password for after sales service. If that doesn't work, email me directly and I'll email you the manual and other useful stuff.



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Posted by pirula (My Page) on Tue, Mar 21, 06 at 22:29

azdreamhome: I got SUCH a chuckle from your post! I probably would never have heard of whomever the TV guy is. Between not watching much TV in the first place, and spending the last two years in Cairo, well.....
BUT it got me thinking about one of the few shows I do watch, 24, and LOL, you just KNOW that Jack Bauer HAS to have a Lacanche!!!!

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Posted by klb_2000 (My Page) on Tue, Mar 21, 06 at 22:43

azdreamhome, I am going to choose to imagine Richard Belzer....no, how about Ice T! with the Lacanche. I see Jack Bauer as more of a Bluestar man, myself ;)
Actaully, I'm not sure Jack even EATS, does he? He's a very busy man.




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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Tue, Mar 21, 06 at 23:01

Yep, glad I kept my mouth (fingers) shut. :-) This way we can all imagine whomever we wish living in Beverly Hills with a Lacanche!



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Posted by andrea345 (My Page) on Wed, Mar 22, 06 at 9:07

edelweiss - below is the link to the AC support page. Adjusting the burners in in the after sales support on a video you watch from their site. You have to get a password from AC for that one. Keep on trying. I almost went insane trying to get ahold of them when I wanted to purchase, but once you're on the radar, it's fine.
I adjusted my burners. Thread #30 (or was it #29?) has more details. Get in contact with AC first b/c a person who adjusted at the same time I did had a valve break. I had no problem adjusting the collars or the gas height. She ran into an issue. AC shipped her the replacement part.

-a



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Posted by jonnyandhayley (My Page) on Wed, Mar 22, 06 at 13:16

Hi hayley and i have had a Burgundy Cluny for 18 months now and it looks terrific however we have real trouble with the ovens(gas and conventional electric) as we seem to burn the bottom of everything. i have been used to a fan oven all my life so never had a problem like this , are the ovens just running to hot? in which case should we do the temperature tests that have been discussed?
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Posted by bertie_d (My Page) on Wed, Mar 22, 06 at 19:00

A little on the light side...I spoke with Matt our GC in Oregon at length yesterday. I asked about the LaCanche..Yes, it arrived and yes, they uncrated it to make sure everything was okay. "So, I said (with a tremor in my voice) how does it look?" He said "it is beautiful...I keep wanting to drive it!!" from him that is the ultimate compliment..wish I could see it.. Bertie



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Posted by hsheffield (My Page) on Wed, Mar 22, 06 at 20:24

hey there:
have thought I was going to buy a wolf df but went by the showroom today and it looks so clunky...

my kd is excited about lacanche and I was hoping this crowd could answer some questions:

1. am I correct to assume that the drawer looking things on the bottom are storage drawers?

2. how do the griddle and grill work? I understand they are placed over burners but was wondering about performance compared w/ 'built in' grills or griddles (like the wolf)

3. I see the pics of the cluny w/ the big turkey.....the measurements are SO small. could you guys really get a 26# turkey in there?

4. service? who?

5. can you specify a configuration and have it delivered? how long does it take from order to delivery? or do you have to choose from the the ac 'reserve' page?

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Posted by annaleef (My Page) on Wed, Mar 22, 06 at 21:51

johnny, I would definitely check your oven temps and then call customer service to discuss. They will be able to shed some light into your burgundy baby.
hsheffield, I'll give it a shot:
1. yes, the drawers on the bottom are storage drawers on most common models.

2. Performance of griddle and grill?
We have several wonderful Wolfs in the family, but I have not tried their grill or griddles, nor do my relatives use them much. We have a Cluny and use the grill plate frequently with fabulous results. The griddle we also use and love. The only downside is that it is somewhat heavy to move around.

3. Turkey sizing: There are many owners here that do a large turkey, with very little room to spare. The French claim this is good because a close fit creates a moist humid cooking environment. We love to roast meats in the gas oven, but don't do turkeys too often.

4. service? who?
AC will give you a list of authorized service dealres, but the range is low tech and easily repairable. No digital controls like the beautiful Wolf.

5. can you specify a configuration and have it delivered? Yes. how long does it take from order to delivery? contact AC for current timing from France. or do you have to choose from the the ac 'reserve' page? No, but it is a convenient option and they can ship those immediately.





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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Thu, Mar 23, 06 at 0:17

jonnyandhayley -- I would LOVE to see a photo of your burgundy red Cluny! Is this possible?
On another note, out of curiousity, how would you classify the "look" of a Lacanche? Is it modern? Is it vintage? Something else? I've always fancied it as something that fits in great with traditional, old world looking kitchens. But I had someone on the homedecorating forum say she thought it looks modern. Just thought I'd get your opinions here. Here's the link (with updated photos of our Lacanche kitchen still being finished)....



Here is a link that might be useful: Finishing Kitchen, need your help...


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Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on Thu, Mar 23, 06 at 15:40

azdreamhome: I would classify the lacanche as "timeless"
hsheffield:
re:
3. I see the pics of the cluny w/ the big turkey.....the measurements are SO small. could you guys really get a 26# turkey in there?

The oven size was the one concern we had before ordering our cluny. Now that we have it, our concern was no issue at all. We have had our stove for 5 weeks now and have cooked for eight people a few times. The ovens worked just fine. If you consider that you put food in front to back, rather than sideways it doesn't seem bad at all. A brief caveat: we don't make cookies often, so the half sheet pan size is more than adequate for us. As well, we would never be making a 26# turkey, but maybe two 13#er's (aren't big birds tough?) My large all-clad roasting pan fits in the oven just dandy. To the best of my memory, nothing that would normaly go in an oven is as large as a large turkey.

Just by way of interest, we were watching some show on FoodTV last night, and my wife and I both cracked up when the chef placed a tray into what seemed like a cavernous oven.

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Posted by annaleef (My Page) on Fri, Mar 24, 06 at 1:31

azdream:
Your kitchen and home are in the final stages, ready for the Lacanche at last! What a dreamy, roomy space you've created in the desert. You must be elated to be so close to enjoying it, up close and personal!
I would not call the Range modern, but a French classic range that blends sucessfully with almost style I have seen it paired with, including contemporary.




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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Sat, Mar 25, 06 at 17:36

joebolt -- yes, that's it.... "timeless." Or "classic" as annaleef says. That's how I would classify a Lacanche!
Thanks for the kind words annaleef! BTW, in the April 2006 issue of House Beautiful (in the Kitchen of the Month article), they have a stainless Cluny photograph (you can only see about 1/4 of it in the photo). But they also have a full photograph of a black Cluny and note that it is sold by AC. In the article itself, the woman that has the Cluny loves it.... of course. Sadly, they do not mention that it is duel-fuel. It's worth checking out at the newstands even if you do not buy the actual issue.




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Posted by kitchengirl (My Page) on Sun, Mar 26, 06 at 2:46

Ivette,
Belated congrats on taking delivery and finally getting your range into the kitchen!
Hello to Bertie and AnnaLeef!




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Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on Sun, Mar 26, 06 at 10:35

Back home from Spring Break and "WOW!!" all the activity here!
Congrats to all the new or soon to be owners!!

Ivette...Yahoo!!!! When do I get to come over??!!

hsheffield...re: #3...have you checked out the Sully? The ovens are bigger than the Cluny ovens. I have a Sully+2 and I have never come close to having any kind of problems with oven size. (I previously had double 30" convection ovens...thought I'd miss them, but don't.) In fact, I'm certain I could have easily been satisfied with the Cluny ovens, too. I hardly ever need the full size my ovens.
...re: #5...I think AC used to quote 8-12 weeks on a custom range, but current demand may affect that timeframe. Remember, the factory shuts down for the month of August and there is little to no activity then. What's your timing?

AZ...modern? That's funny! I can't see that at all!




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Posted by andrea345 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 26, 06 at 13:00

Well, not being a decorator, I could be blowing smoke outta my fingertips. The Yellow fits very nicely into a "modern" kitchen. While we're not "industrial-modern", we're clean-lined, color-saturated "modern". We've focused on interesting materials and angular lines. The "traditional" look of the Lacanche just doesn't pop out & say "Boo!". It's color in the space. It's scale is perfect. It's vertical and horizontal lines are clean. It's a great transitional piece. It's the same sort of thing as the cabinets. While the cabinets are "shaker-style", you don't get the sense of Shaker "look". There's no "farm-house" about the space. One thing I noticed is that those lines add height to our 90" high walls. It fools the eye, giving the space a sense of more vertical space than there actually is. It's a great city kitchen.
Anyways, the pictures stink. But our KD's already staged & shot the space, so I should have better ones coming pretty soon. I'll post in the gallery then.

Range Wall
Appliances / work center / frig wall / entrance to laundry
From the laundry

Oh! Oh! on another front - we finally made a cookware decision. Our previous pans - ProHG just couldn't stand up to the heat off the burners. The finish started breaking down. We went with Demeyere which has rivetless construction. I'm sooo tired of banging around those rivets. What we noticed right off the bat, while we were cleaning & curing the pieces, is that this stuff holds its heat. Holy mother! I even melted / damaged my sink grill & that was after the pans had "cooled". I also chose to go with a sauteuse pan instead of a 3 qt pot. One of the things I like about the Demeyere is that it's "double boiler" are simply wide-lipped smooth bowls which fit over their pot lips. No special pot required! The handles are also very comfortable. They don't pinch like others we tested out. Most importantly, no finish nothing which breaks down under the heat.

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Posted by bake_sale (My Page) on Sun, Mar 26, 06 at 18:06

Andrea:
Your kitchen is exquisite. I can't wait to see the pics from the KD. What colors did you choose for the walls and backsplash over the countertops? We're looking for similar colors to bring out the green in our Cluny. The new color is more olive and less green then it had appeared on the website. We like the color but it's been harder to find a color that won't tends towards a camoflauge (sp?) look.




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Posted by downtowner (My Page) on Mon, Mar 27, 06 at 1:31

One of the great things about contemporary design is that well-designed "traditional" pieces fit right in.
We are all stainless appliances and stainless and beech IKEA cabinets. The stainless LaCanche fits right in.

I've had my LaCanche for a couple of years, but never posted a picture.



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Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on Mon, Mar 27, 06 at 6:28

downtowner - Please make your photos public so that we can see your pictures! I can't wait to see your combination! Thanks!



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Posted by hsheffield (My Page) on Mon, Mar 27, 06 at 6:33

been out of town but wanted to thank everyone for their responses. great crowd here, obviously excited about their ranges!



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Posted by lpolk (My Page) on Mon, Mar 27, 06 at 10:39

Sorry, another newbie question.
I have spent the weekend reading lacanche 31, 30, 29, 28, 27 and I think 26... :) You guys should definitely get a commission, I am again mesmorized, like I was a year ago when y'all first introduced me to Lacanche. My long strange year of addition remodeling has gone from Lacanche, to Viking, to GE, and now hopefully back to lacanche. I want to stop the ride and get off!

My question:
I want the black cluny. I would love the 1400 but with a family of 2 can't justify it. The extra ~$4000 is too much. :( I just cannot decide between FT and classique. Most of you seem to get the classique. but those with a FT love it. I think the FT seems more useful, in that you can still use the center burner to boil water (which will be my main use of it) and sear/wok with the burner exposed, correct? But with the FT, you can also simmer and hold dishes, which is appealing because I entertain.

Aesthetically I can see how all-burners look better especially after the discoloration of the French Top (special thanks to all who post honestly used lacanche photos, very helpful to see what it will "really" look like, I cook!!)

I know the classique comes with a simmer plate, but I can't see if I'm entertaining how I could sacrifice two regular burners for it. It's hard to predict how I'd use it. Any advice?




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Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on Mon, Mar 27, 06 at 11:30

lpolk---I’ll take a stab here…I love my FT, but I have an advantage in that I have a very large range with a lot of burners. I have both the larger open 18K burner and the FT, as well as 6 other burners of the smaller sizes.
I like to make a lot of soups and cook with a wok, which is perfect with the 18K open burner. We also entertain a lot. I often find I have numerous pots going at once. The FT is useful for me because I can scoot the pots around on the FT as I need to change the intensity of the heat each pot gets. Once I adjusted to using the FT, I found that I like it better for multiple pots because usually I’m in a hurry. I find it easier to slide and scoot a pot here or there than I do to raise or lower a flame at an individual burner. I don’t have to bend down and look at the height of the flame. I can pretty much tell by what the contents of the pot are doing as to where I need to place it on the FT.

If I need a pot to boil, I place the flame on the FT at mid-to-hi, put the pot I need to boil in the middle, then the other pots around the edge. If I don’t need to boil, I usually put the flame low-to-med and go from there.

Scooting pots around on the FT allows me to give all (or most!) of my attention to a pot/pan that may require more focus. I find I burn or scorch a lot less when I use the FT!

I will say…I think it’s personal preference and what you get used to and how you are able to make it work for you. I’ve got the hang of it for my style of cooking, so I love it. I know there are some who don’t like the FT.

It does take time to get the FT up to temp. It doesn’t change temps quickly. Some say it throws a lot of heat into the room. My kitchen is large, so I don’t feel this issue.

Having said all this, if I had to sacrifice burners to get the FT, I would not do that. I seem to use mine a lot, but it’s mostly when entertaining or when I just happen to be making a lot of different dishes for one meal. If it cost me burners, I would get the regular burners and the simmer plate accessory and figure out how to get that to work for me.

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Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on Mon, Mar 27, 06 at 17:48

lpolk: I have a cluny with a FT. I don't have the advantages momto4kids has with all those other burners. I love it! I ditto all the comments from momto4kids. It works exactly as I thought. It is also easy to remove the center cover to access the high burner for the wok or just to use.
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Posted by bake_sale (My Page) on Mon, Mar 27, 06 at 18:01

lpolk: I can't comment from use - my cluny with the FT sits in my dining room - but I think the simmer plate might not be as portable as advertized. I have the grill and griddle and both are very heavy. So heavy in fact that I doubt I'll use them unless I decided to keep one permanently installed.



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Posted by downtowner (My Page) on Mon, Mar 27, 06 at 19:00

Sorry.
Gallery is now unlocked.



Here is a link that might be useful: Lacanche in minimalist IKEA environment


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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Mon, Mar 27, 06 at 19:23

downtowner -- your contempory kitchen is great! The Lacanche looks so fab sitting there. Have you enjoyed cooking on it?



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Posted by annaleef (My Page) on Mon, Mar 27, 06 at 23:12

oh, great city loft - Love that space, downtowner! The Lacanche does fit right in. Looks like you have a French top, unless my eyes deceive me. If so, how do you like using it?



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Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on Tue, Mar 28, 06 at 0:22

downtowner - Great space; great kitchen. The Lacanche looks like it was born to be there too. Thanks for sharing!



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Posted by lpolk (My Page) on Tue, Mar 28, 06 at 9:55

downtowner, well done, GORGEOUS! I love your entire space. You're making me get all green-acres on my husband again. I'm in a 112 yr old house in the burbs, dreaming of a city loft... :)
Thanks for the FT feedback. The rep at Art Culinaire recommended Classique actually for flexibility, but I also wonder about lugging the thing out. So hard to say how/if you'd use something you've never used!

However, he also said that you really need the simmer plate (portable or FT) to get a low simmer on the small burner, is that your experience? I have to decide in two days! Must order this week... Thanks for the input.





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Posted by velodoug (My Page) on Tue, Mar 28, 06 at 11:11

I've adjusted the low setting flame height on our small burner to the absolute minimum, and it's fine for 90% of the low simmering we do. For the remaining 10%, I position an 11" round cast iron griddle off center over the burner and put the sauce pan off center on the griddle. With that configuration I can get the simmer low enough to stop the bubbling altogether.
We used the portable simmer plate several times but found it too much bother to remove the regular grate and replace it with the simmer plate. The other issue is that our simmer plate does not have little rubber feet like the griddle and grill plates so it scratches the SS top. The scratches are not visible with the regular grate in place but DW is still unhappy about them.

Just for fun, I weighed the three plates using the standing on a scale holding the plates method. The numbers could be off by as much as a pound: Griddle Plate = 20.5 lbs. Grill Plate = 18.5 lbs. Simmer Plate = 13.5 lbs.




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Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on Tue, Mar 28, 06 at 12:00

Hi guys, I haven't yet adjusted the flames on our Cluny (I know, Doug, my husband even handed me the screwdriver last weekend, saying "Isn't this the one you need?" - I think after Julie's experience with the knob I'm just a bit timid. Anyway...)
My husband loves the kitchen, loves the Cluny, every decision I've made, but he keeps bothering me about the simmering. (I haven't really made anything that's demanded a long simmer yet. For a short simmer, I've just been treating the grates a bit like a FT and just moving the pans off the flame a bit. Anyway, would one of these things work? I've never used one before.



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Posted by lpolk (My Page) on Tue, Mar 28, 06 at 13:24

Hey you guys, I am having a weird time in MA. I started a new thread because my problem is specific to Massachusetts, but it looks like I cannot install this appliance here. If you have any comments please check out that thread, I am really disappointed!


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Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on Tue, Mar 28, 06 at 15:54

I have adjusted my small burner to low also, and as velodoug says it's fine for about 90%. I own what's called a "flame tamer" that sounds similar to the cast iron griddle he uses. Simply a small (8" diameter) cast iron plate that just distributes the heat.



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Posted by emillerpdx (My Page) on Tue, Mar 28, 06 at 19:03

Today we ordered a Cluny with the simmer plate, just under the wire before the price increases on 4/1. We wanted the Cluny 1400 but couldn't justify the extra 4K, someone else said the same thing earlier on this thread.
Should arrive sometime towards the end of June. Any other Portland (Oregon) Lacanche people out there, give a shout, interested to hear what your experience is with the range too, and any recommended kitchen remodelers who did a good job 'wrapping' the kitchen around the range.




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Posted by downtowner (My Page) on Thu, Mar 30, 06 at 1:48

Thanks for the kind words for our kitchen.
We love cooking on the Lacanche, but we love cooking. In this part of the world, as my neighbor says, there are a lot of gourmet kitchens, but not a lot of gourmet meals. I shouldn't says this on the applicance forum, but I don't think that the brand of appliance is an important factor in the quality of the cooking. We combine the Lacanche with a lot of auxiliaries, Advantium, induction rice cooker, built-in gas grill, electric kettle, super-automatic coffee maker, electric waffle iron and even an electric griddle, which my wife prefers for making pancakes. The thing I like about the Lacanche as time goes by is its flexibility and variety. DW loves the French top, but is not fond of the ovens --which I don't use much, but I've just learned need adjusting. But most importantly it is the look of the thing that makes us smile. Cooking is the time of day that we combine sharing with the family and creativity. Somehow, for us, the "pro look" just doesn't capture that ambiance.

As for the space, it is not a loft actually. It is the first floor of our townhouse (c. 1820), so it is narrower than a loft, but doesn't have bathrooms or bedrooms. Today we had the quintessential suburban experience of pouring a replacement slab to turn the basement into what used to be called a rec room. I suppose the RE ads would call it a "media room" or an "entertainment center," but it's just a rec room with a wet bar
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Posted by honeysmomcooks (My Page) on Thu, Mar 30, 06 at 16:51

Hi all! Ok....Here goes....Have been hanging out here long enough.....Am taking the ferry over to Seattle Saturday to 'kick the tires' on the Sully at Art Culinaire. Am completely in love with the French Top, and so very glad to finally see some feedback on it! We spend the summers canning (jams, relish, etc. etc.) and the winters making soups, sauces, feeding neighbors, etc. etc....and I am so tired of trying to balance everything on a 4-burner! Until finding the Lacanche, had myself pushed into purchasing a Wolf just for the FT! So glad I'm here now....whew...Anyhow....
Is there anything that you all would suggest that we pay particular attention to when checking these out in person?? Any surprises that we may discover by actually touching and feeling them?? Not sure if AC has ranges that are actually hooked up to turn on and play with, or if we will be simply viewing the ranges listed on their Reserve page. I am completely sold on the Sully, but DH may need a push!

Oh, just a little background (or look-to-the-future)...getting ready to build our 'forever' home, currently have trees and dirt, but AC stated that they will store it until we are ready for it.

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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Thu, Mar 30, 06 at 21:39

emillerpdx -- CONGRATS on your Lacanche purchase! And I hope to hear how you like it once you receive it (with photos of course).
downtowner -- thanks for the feedback on your Lacanche. Sounds as if you and the wife are serious cooks and have lots of great experience!

honeysmomcooks -- great user name! I wish I could tell you about visiting AC but we purchased our range (Cluny 1400) sight unseen! I know a few others have actually been into AC to check them out in person (I would have if I could). Debto4Kids has a Sully+2 (plus a FT) so I'm sure she can give you the run-down on a Sully. Do you have an appt on Sat or are you just dropping in? If you can, make sure you get a chance to speak to Stan (or Tom). Good luck and please let us know how it goes, k?




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Posted by klb_2000 (My Page) on Thu, Mar 30, 06 at 21:54

honeysmomcooks, I don't think Art Culinaire have any "live" ranges, but it still helps just to be able to see something before you buy, doesn't it? Plus you can pick up some color sample chips while you are there, if you are still undecided on colors.
You might want to bring a few pans to see how they fit in the ovens, although not such an issue with the Sully as with the Cluny.

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Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on Fri, Mar 31, 06 at 8:58

Congrats again to the newbies!
downtowner....beautiful!!!!!

honeysmomcooks...I have the Sully ovens with two warming cupboards. Like many of the others, we purchased sight-unseen, without testing anyone's range! You're lucky to be near enough to go to AC!! I have an FT and absolutely love it. With your canning and soups, you'll love having it, too! (Dare I bring this OT question up?! Since you're still designing/planning, are you adding the pot filler? I don't can, but do a lot of soups, etc...very convenient to have the water source right there.)

Quite a few of us have either had our order in queue for a very long time, or have had AC store our ranges while we get ready for them. You won't be disappointed!!!




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Posted by honeysmomcooks (My Page) on Fri, Mar 31, 06 at 11:11

Thanks for all of the positive support!
azdreamhome - Here's the scoop on visiting AC in person....Evidently they are generally a Mon-Fri 9-5 business, but there is a winery wing-ding in Woodinville this weekend so they are planning on being there this Sat.(yay!). We were told that since we have made prior arrangements and they know to look for us, then Sat. is fine. Spoke with Christie (answers the phones?) and Ryan, but will look for Stan & Tom. I do need to add that we were told that the prices will be going up on 4/1. Thus, my motivation to go this weekend and possibly/hopefully get this ordered.

momto4kids - Don't know about living 'near' AC....trip involves an hour on the ferry over to Seattle, driving from there, definitely getting lost in the 'big city', and a return trip....but it should be a fun day, kids and all!! As to house - scratch that - kitchen design, I feel like the people in that TV commercial that ask the designer to design their house around a kitchen faucet! ha! But really...we spend most of our family time in our kitchen and I feel that this would be a great piece to build memories around (both of my kids even made their own 'secret recipe' applesauces last summer!) Not sure about the pot filler, had not even occurred to me! hhhmmm... another thing to think about!

Will try to drop a line on Sunday with what we see/find out at AC! Sincere thanks again to all of you who contribute your wisdom and knowledge to this wonderful discussion.




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Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on Fri, Mar 31, 06 at 12:43

Good luck! Do take your favorite pan/cookie sheet with you if you have room. It'll make you feel better about any questions you may have regarding oven/burner sizes...not that it'll be an issue at all...it's just that they aren't 30" wall ovens you see a lot today and that is sometimes shocking to people until they realize they probably don't use up all that space anyway! I would love to visit AC's winery, too! Lucky you! Be sure to report back!!



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Posted by margeaux (My Page) on Sun, Apr 2, 06 at 16:40

Hello to all of you present and future lacanche owners! I wonder if you can help me with the cluny vs. sully dilemna. I love them both but in spite of everyone saying the cluny ovens are big enough I can't seem to feel comfortable with the small size. The sully addresses that but I am having trouble getting used to the idea of putting a 55"+ range in my 12x18' kitchen. I also am trying to come to terms with spending around $13k on a stove. It seems so excessive to me. If anyone out there went through the same process I would love to hear your thoughts. thanks.



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Posted by downtowner (My Page) on Sun, Apr 2, 06 at 17:25

FWIW, I've gotten around to posting my IKEA/Lacanche kitchen in the Gallery. Brand new pics since last week!


Here is a link that might be useful: IKEA/Lacanche Townhouse/Loft hybrid kitchen for entertaining multitudes of imaginary guests


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Posted by honeysmomcooks (My Page) on Mon, Apr 3, 06 at 11:18

Good morning all! - Here is two cents on the Sully vs. Cluny discussion after visiting AC this weekend and getting to stick my head in both of these ovens. I walked in pretty much pre-decided on the Sully due to the oven sizes, but now am up-in-the-air between this and the Cluny 1400....same widths, same cooktop configurations available (love-love-love that french top!), just different on the bottom halves. It appears to me that unless you roast large turkeys on a daily basis (no, not just hubby!), that the Cluny ovens would be fine for most. Yes, they are 5" narrower, but the depth and height are the same. Being more of a cookie/cake baker than a big-time roaster, I think that it would be fine for my style cooking. AC had the Cluny 1400 displayed with what looked like an 11 x 15 roasting pan sitting in one oven. I think that you would simply need to adjust to placing your pans in front-to-back rather than sideways, as another poster mentioned.
As to price justification, well....here's how it was decided in our house....ALOT of our family time and memories are made and spent in the kitchen. It's not granite counters that our memories are created around, or beautiful flooring, but our stove and the meals/goodies prepared there. I'm not saying that I don't WANT these other things, but that in our home-building priority will be given to budgeting for the range first and then the other items may be added as funds allow. Again, just my two cents....!

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Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on Mon, Apr 3, 06 at 16:18

margeaux: I have the cluny. The oven sizes were my only real concern as well. They are plenty big enough for most everything, unless, as honeysmomcooks mentions, you want to do large turkeys on a regular basis.



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Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on Mon, Apr 3, 06 at 16:20

margeaux...I responded to your other thread...I have the Sully ovens.



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Posted by margeaux (My Page) on Mon, Apr 3, 06 at 18:56

Thanks for your responses and apologies for "double posting" (didn't realize the other post went through).
I am going with the cluny. I only wish I had consulted with fellow lacanche enthusiasts sooner on this topic! I am at peace with this thing now and I am sure I am going to love cooking with my new work of art.



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Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on Mon, Apr 3, 06 at 21:20

margeaux - Congrats on your decision! Now we all want to know what color!



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Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on Tue, Apr 4, 06 at 6:34

margeaux - Congratulations! Yes, we need specifics now!!



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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Tue, Apr 4, 06 at 11:00

Congrats Margeaux! Yes, color please ....and delivery date?



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Posted by margeaux (My Page) on Tue, Apr 4, 06 at 19:51

Well, since you all have asked...! I am doing the matte black with the classique top. Yes, very safe but it goes with my choice of cream cabinets and calcutta gold marble countertops (we'll throw in a little bit of stainless steel and cherry countertops also). We are doing very dark oak floors and plan to put in a gas fireplace as well. We live in a very traditional New England colonial so I am trying to stay true to the sprit of the house.
I have enjoyed looking at all of the lacanche kitchens on the picture gallery and certainly have received inspiration from so many of you!




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Posted by histokitch (My Page) on Thu, Apr 6, 06 at 17:44

Hi, everyone. I'm trying to make a final range choice so that I can decide what I'm doing in the rest of my kitchen. I have a quirky 1895 Tudor house and am trying to put in a very simple kitchen that blends. Right now my kitchen is full of sleek cabinets and stainless appliances installed by the previous owner. After a lot of research, I have narrowed my range search down to Lacanche and Aga 6-4 (their duel fuel one, not the hot beast). Blue Star is too unfinished for me as far as the quality of their metal work, but I like the sound of the power. For me, though, beauty before brawn. Things I like about Lacanche: the choice of having a gas oven, the option of a french top. Things I'm not sure about: the broiler seems a bit weak, and the whole look is perhaps a bit dainty for my house. What I like about the Aga is the high burners 20,500btu(I have a commercial stove in my house now) and the strong broiler, and the price. I don't like quite how tiny the ovens are, and the fact that the ovens are only electric, and also that it's essentially a brand new, untested product.
My latest thought, if you're still reading, is to get a Volnay with a french top and a gas oven, and then get an electric wall oven with a strong broiler. I never read about people with the Volnay/Vougeot (sp?), so I'm not sure if they're less practical than the popular Sully/Cluny models, or what. I know which way most of you will fall on the Aga/Lacanche issue, and I guess I'll have to figure that out on my own, but I'm interested in those who combine the Lacanche with a wall oven.




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Posted by nicksgram51 (My Page) on Thu, Apr 6, 06 at 18:25

Hi all,
need to ask you all a question. do you have a problem with a strong gas smell from your oven when it's on? i smell it in my house and when i open the oven door. more so when i don't turn on the ventahood. i'm really concerned. it shouldn't have such a strong gas odor. anyone else? thanks, marilyn



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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Thu, Apr 6, 06 at 18:51

margeaux --- your kitchen selections sound great. I look forward to seeing how it all comes together (with photos)!
histokitch -- welcome to the Lacanche forum. I also considered a Volnay/Veogeot (plus wall oven) combo for quite a while. But we ended up with a Cluny 1400 since I really wanted the range to be a focal point in our kitchen (substantial part of one end of the kitchen in alcove). I hope I don't regret giving up a separate oven (we won't install our Lacanche until later this month). Plus all of our appliances with the exception of an undercounter microwave are done with an overlay and having an extra wall oven would defeat what we were going for. I do think the Volnay plus oven is definitely a great option to consider but it seems like you do see a lot more Cluny (or Sully) purchases. I think they have a couple of Volnays on the AC Reserve page now. Good luck with your decision!



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Posted by andrea345 (My Page) on Thu, Apr 6, 06 at 20:32

marilyn -
gas odor? Not me, that's for sure. I'd start with AC and the people who installed your range. I'd also suggest against using the range until you get it and the installation checked out.
There's also the list of supporting appliance places on the support page - don't forget about them.
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Posted by joeboldt (My Page) on Thu, Apr 6, 06 at 20:34

nicksgram51: You should NOT have a gas smell period. Something sounds disconnected. I'd contact AC and get some advice from them.
histokitch: re: "the whole look is perhaps a bit dainty for my house." I know the pictures of them may look a tad dainty, but be assured, I could put this baby in my garage next to my tablesaw and it would win the tough look award! We too thought about getting a volnay and a wall oven but ultimately decided the cluny ovens were just fine - and they have proven to be so.Thinking about it, we don't use our broiler very often, usually just to brown up the top of something like lasagna and it works fine for that. What do you use your broiler for?




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Posted by histokitch (My Page) on Thu, Apr 6, 06 at 21:01

Thanks, Joe. It's not that I'm a broiler queen, it's just that I have a salamander now, so that's my reference. Typical stuff--yummy crusty cheese, creme brulee, steaks. Our Vulcan is 60", so we have a lot of space. I just thought it might be nice to reclaim a little counter because my workspace is disproportionally small. I actually do a lot of prep on my 24" griddle. I actually like my range, but it is 30 years old and no one here will service it. The commercial guys don't come to the house, and the residential guys won't touch it. It has 3 standing pilots, so it wastes a lot of gas, and it is hot all the time. I can't even use the oven because the door is not insulated and my kids are little. I have considered keeping it, but I don't think it's practical. Maybe because I'm attached to it, I think that's why the Lacanche looks so prim. I feel like I'm having a therapy session! I'll work through it. The Aga might be a bit gimmicky, and at least the Lacanche is the real deal.
ps, azdreamhome, if you're ever looking for live in help, let me know. I'd be happy to live in your kitchen. I'd be quiet. ;)





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Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on Fri, Apr 7, 06 at 8:47

Hi histokitch!
Welcome! Your Vulcan and Salamander do sound like they were great appliances!

I'm not a broiler queen either, but I don't seem to really have any issues with it's abilities. Maybe if I were an avid "broiler-er," I'd feel differently, but, fwiw, I think it suits my needs.

I have to agree with Joe! Maybe it looks dainty in pix, but it certainly is not! Here's mine in the kitchen. There are a number of us who have the FTs and use the regularly and love them. I also have a ss work surface on part of mine. It sounds like you'd like that. And the warming cupboards are wonderful. The configuration allows you a lot of flexibility.

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Posted by honeysmomcooks (My Page) on Fri, Apr 7, 06 at 10:11

momto4kids - I have a question for you about your range configuration....In your pictures it looks like you have your FT in the center of your range, and the hob/wok ring set up on the end. Do you run into problems with not being able to center pots on the burners adjacent to the FT because of the elevated edge on it?? Thanks for sharing!



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Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on Fri, Apr 7, 06 at 14:44

honeysmomcooks...No, no such problems at all. The grates and width of each hob section are rather generous. Do you have a specific pot you're concerned about? Let me know and I'll see if I've got a similar sized pot and double check it.



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Posted by honeysmomcooks (My Page) on Fri, Apr 7, 06 at 15:37

momto4kids - Thanks for the offer!! Several BIG stock pots would be my concern. As I am thinking about it, I bet that my big canning pot (the big blue/black speckly kind) would probably be best positioned on the end on the traditional hob, with our other pots on the other burners & french top. When canning we have at least one, but usually two, other big stock pots on along with the canner. Wintertime is a bit easier - no canning, but lots and lots of soups, hearty stews, and friends!
On another note....I printed out a pic of your kitchen from the Finished Kitchens blog (flattery-flattery-flattery! ha!) to show to our builder and home designer as it is the only example that I could find of a kitchen with NO upper cabinets flanking the range! When I told these two MEN that I wanted no uppers they looked at me like I was crazy! They really don't "get" it! Thanks for posting your pics!!




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Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on Fri, Apr 7, 06 at 15:53

Honey-
Re: no uppers...I know! I got the same thing. The guys thought I was nuts and had secretly placed bets that I'd change my mind before they were done. They were wrong!!
I have a blue/black speckled pot. Let me get it out with another stock pot. I'll report back, but probably not until tomorrow.

Thank you for the kinds words!!




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Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on Fri, Apr 7, 06 at 16:01

Honey-
Re: no uppers...I know! I got the same thing. The guys thought I was nuts and had secretly placed bets that I'd change my mind before they were done. They were wrong!!
I have a blue/black speckled pot. Let me get it out with another stock pot. I'll report back, but probably not until tomorrow.

Thank you for the kinds words!!




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Posted by wrenf (My Page) on Sat, Apr 8, 06 at 13:59

Hello, could someone please do me a favor and e-mail me the sign-in name and password for the AC technical support page please. I had it stored in my computer but it crashed and we were not able to recover it. I am going to attempt to adjust one of my burners which is way too high. Wish me luck. Also has this happended to anyone? The piece that fits on the bottom of my gas oven is all bent and warped. I need to see if they will send me a new one. I don't know how it happened. Thanks, Judith
www.wrenf@aol.com



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Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on Sun, Apr 9, 06 at 19:34

Honey...my blue/black speckled pot doesn't come close to the FT. Why don't you measure your biggest pot and let me check that measurement?



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Posted by honeysmomcooks (My Page) on Tue, Apr 11, 06 at 20:29

momto4kids - Thank you thank you!! If it can handle my big canning pot (packed up til June, but holds roughly 10'ish jars, I think) and not be pushing my other stock pots off of the stove then I'm a TOTALLY happy gal! Should really have brought my pots with when we went to AC to check them out, but...it was Saturday, they were hosting a winery thing....and we didn't want to look like the Klampits (sp?) just dropped by and crashed their shindig!
Will drop a line when we finally get some dirt moving and order this wonder-range! Thanks again....




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Posted by am235 (My Page) on Fri, Apr 14, 06 at 1:14

old kitchen is no more. There is a big space with tape on the floor marking where my new cluny will reside when it gets here in June. It will be the last thing to the party. The electrician is done til the cabinets get here the 20th. The plumber comes tomorrow. Then drywall. We chose our granite slabs this week and set a template date for after cabinet installation. We fell in love with the Verde Esmeralda. It has wonderful movement and the dark color we were looking for. It will go well with the travertine floors and backsplash and the mahogany ceiling. Cabinets are going to be white. Also ordered the light fixtures for over the island and nook table (Iroko butcherblock on both) Can't wait for the Cluny to arrive because that will be the finish. We got the matte black with brass. The inspiration was the kitchen from the movie "Something's gotta give" with compromises to warm it up for my DH who works with and loves wood. There will be lots of warm wood touches in the doors and 17' window. and of course the ceiling we spent hours staining and are still finishing so it will be ready to go up after the cabinets go in.



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Posted by colohome (My Page) on Sun, Apr 16, 06 at 9:26

histokitch, I opted for the Volnay with a gas oven and a separate 27" electric convection wall oven. I really wanted the warming cupboard, this is what drove my decision. I have been in the new house for 4 months now, and I can tell you I am very very happy with this decision. It is the best of both worlds for me. I love my burgundy LaCanche with the french top, its looks and function are absolutely awesome. I am definitely still learning how to use this beauty but I assure you it is great fun! I really like the flexibility of a gas oven under the range, and a separate electric convection oven with a broiler. I am also thrilled with the warming cupboard. I use this frequently, even though I only cook for 2 on a daily basis. For me, this configuration saved money, provided everything I wanted, and allowed me to configure my work space in a very functional way.
I also looked at the AGA, but once I saw a picture of a LaCanche I knew this was the one for me. Like many others I bought it sight unseen, relying on what I had read here. (at the time, I read every archived posting on LaCanche - took a week, but it sold me!) My contact with AC was nothing but positive from the first day. I chose burgundy from the samples AC sent. I could not be happier. Good luck on your decision!




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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Sun, Apr 16, 06 at 19:05

am235 -- your kitchen sounds dreamy! I can't wait to see how it all comes together. Our Spekva Iroko butcherblock countertop gets installed on Tuesday...can't wait to see it.
colohome -- do you have any photos of your burgundy Volnay? I'd love to see it along with your kitchen. I still drool when I see the burgundy red Lacanches!

Our update: I left a message on Friday for Steve at AC....begging for him to hold our black Cluny 1400 for another week. Can you believe it? This was after I received the email notifying customers that storage charges are going up to $100/month. We were supposed to go for our final inspection late last week but our paver driveway is holding that up (starting install tomorrow). We do not want to install our kitchen appliances until after we pass inspection and closer to when we move in (security reasons mostly and I want our gas/electric turned on for installation). Our gas co. is notorious for taking a while after you get your certificate of occupancy.





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Posted by andrea345 (My Page) on Fri, Apr 21, 06 at 9:08

azdreamhome -
How is your driveway going? Did it get finished?
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Posted by histokitch (My Page) on Fri, Apr 21, 06 at 9:29

Thanks, colohome. You completely answered my question. If I go this route, I will copy you with the burgundy as well. Just curious, which wall oven did you choose? That might be my next area of research.



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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Sat, Apr 22, 06 at 12:52

andrea345 -- yes they finished the driveway and main walkway yesterday. We had our final inspection yesterday but have to fix a few small things and should pass (and get our certificate of occupancy) on Tuesday. Yeah! Also on Tuesday our black Cluny 1400 should be leaving Washington state and arriving in AZ either Friday or the following Monday. We will have power by then but I'm not sure about gas being available by then. We will move into the house about May 10th. Can't wait to see that Lacanche and fire it up!



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Posted by klb_2000 (My Page) on Sat, Apr 22, 06 at 15:20

Well, I still have another month until my range arrives, but I did receive my Modern-Aire hood yesterday! Modern-aire can color match to any of the RAL colors, so (hopefully!) this will be a perfect match for my RAL9001 (aka Ivory)Cormatin. The turnaround time was amazing--they got this hood to me in less than 4 weeks after ordering. One little regret: after obsessing between the polished and brushed stainless bands, I ended up going with the brushed. Looking at it now, I don't think the polished would have been as overwhelmingly flashy as I worried it would be. Actually, I was expecting there to be a stainless band along the front lip, as well (under the decorative pot rack bar), but I guess that was an option I needed to specify. Fortunately, I prefer the look without that band...so that little mistake worked out well for me.
Ah, slowly getting closer to the end product!






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Posted by wilsonb (My Page) on Sat, Apr 22, 06 at 17:22

Oh Kelly...It's gorgeous.



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Posted by annaleef (My Page) on Sat, Apr 22, 06 at 18:31

Beautiful, beautiful, Kelly.
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Posted by andrea345 (My Page) on Sun, Apr 23, 06 at 9:36

azdreamhome - I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you. May your inspection go smoothly, or if it doesn't, may the inspector find something worth correcting.
Kelly - It's gawgeous!

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Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on Sun, Apr 23, 06 at 10:09

AZ...good luck on getting your CO!!! I'm very excited for you!!
Kelly...ohmigoodness!! That's a beautiful hood! It'll be gorgeous with your range. Looking forward to more pictures!




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Posted by klb_2000 (My Page) on Sun, Apr 23, 06 at 12:13

It is a nice hood, isn't it? And one of the best things about it---even with the custom color it only cost me about $1300 plus shipping. (Note that it is only during my current kitchen-related spending spree that I feel OK saying anything 'only' cost me $1300!) When I priced out the similar Vent-a-hood (Excalibur) color matched to RAL9001, it was nearly twice that amount. However, I think I owe the excellent pricing to the fact that the range hood company doesn't have a local distributor in my area, so I bought directly from the manufacturer. A friend priced out the exact same model at her local dealer (in CA) and it cost at least $1000 more (and the manufacturer wouldn't sell directly to her).
Of course, no report yet on the actual performance (which counts for something too!).




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Posted by ophelias (My Page) on Sun, Apr 30, 06 at 23:35

Speaking of local dealers' costing more, does anyone know of a vendor in France or England or elsewhere in Europe that ships Lacanche ranges to the USA? Thanks.



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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Tue, May 2, 06 at 11:35

ophelias -- do a search on this board for Vedazu who imported from Europe. She provides lots of info.
Well, after 10+ months in storage at AC, our black Cluny 1400 is being delivered TODAY sometime between Noon and 5:00 pm (PST). Wish us luck!!




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Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on Tue, May 2, 06 at 11:43

AZ....Oh!!! I'm so excited for you! Please post pix when it arrives!!! Good luck!!



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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Tue, May 2, 06 at 11:55

Oops! No sooner did I post here than my builder called to tell me we are rescheduling delivery until tomorrow afternoon. We are getting our power turned on today (cross your fingers). Gas went on last week so we will be able to "install" (I hope).
I will definitely post pics by the end of the week... I hope.




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Posted by kitchengirl (My Page) on Wed, May 3, 06 at 15:45

Hi all,
Could someone please provide the url for the Lacanche finished kitchens blog? Is it still available? I know I bookmarked the site, but cannot find it!
Thanks very much.



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Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on Wed, May 3, 06 at 16:10

AZ...well, is it in???
kitchengirl...unfortunately, I think Nancy has left. The blog seems to stop at Thread #23...but it's wonderful that it's still there!



Here is a link that might be useful: Lacanche Blog


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Posted by kitchengirl (My Page) on Wed, May 3, 06 at 17:43

Momto4:
Thanks very much!



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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Wed, May 3, 06 at 19:10

Nothing too exciting to report. The Lacanche has ARRIVED and is sitting all crated up in our garage. We took off one end of the crate so I can see it from the side but we do not want to uncrate it anymore until the electricity gets turned on and the security system is working. Makes me real nervous to have that beauty sitting in our garage (we haven't moved in yet). Now I need to wait one more week (May 11th) to get it installed. I found someone in the Phoenix area who installs all the "exotic" ranges (Lacanche, Morice, LaCornue, etc.). He's the only name Art Culinere had on their website. When I spoke to him yesterday he says he wants to do the entire "uncrating" procedure and move it into the house, install, etc. I just do not trust my plumber to touch this baby. I can definitely wait one more week and sleep at night.
I will keep you posted and will definitely post some pics once it's in it's rightful place in our kitchen!




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Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on Thu, May 4, 06 at 10:58

Oh bummer...but YAY! at the same time! At least you have the comfort of knowing it's at your house!! That's a wonderful relief, I'm sure!! Looking forward to seeing pix of your beautiful kitchen (and the rest of your home!!)!!



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Posted by maringirl (My Page) on Mon, May 8, 06 at 11:11

Hi everyone -- I can't remember how long I have been off these threads now because my home construction project has been a big blur. But sitting is my new garage, still in its crate, is a Sologne Green Chambertin with an open burner, French top and two regular burners. I can't believe it is finally a reality! After the help and input I got from all of you, I decided to go with this range, gas oven, and a separate Elan Vintage electric convection wall oven. It is also in my garage. I am way behind the curve on venting though, and need some help. I tried to find thread 28, but I don't think it is up anymore. We are going to do a VAH liner with a wood/venetian plaster hood, but I am getting conflicting information on the size of liner to use. Ours is wall mounted, and there aren't any uppers close enough to be an issue, so we really can go as big as we need to. I would love some advice, and if anyone can help me find thread 28, that would be great! I enjoyed reading this thread this weekend and catching up with you all! Thanks -- Val



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Posted by azdreamhome (My Page) on Mon, May 8, 06 at 11:43

Hi Val -- congrats on your Chambertin! Is that like a Volnay (one oven and one warming cabinet)? I would love to see photos of it when you have it in your kitchen. We also have our Cluny 1400 crated up and in our garage. I'm hoping to get it installed this Thursday. It arrived last Tuesday so I'm probably going to take the crate off of it today and examine it so if there are any problems I can report them within my seven (7) day window as required.
We also have the VAH with a framed in hood and will do some kind of paint treatment to it (venetian plaster is being considered also). I'll post pics at the end of the week (I hope). When is your Chambertin going into your kitchen?




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Posted by maringirl (My Page) on Mon, May 8, 06 at 19:05

AZ -- Thanks! The Chambertin is like a Volnay (oven plus warming cupboard), except that it is 4" wider to accomodate an extra hob. That way I didn't have to choose between the open burner and FT! We did peek to make sure there was no damage. After planning for so long it is amazing to see the real thing. That is exciting you are so close to finishing! We are about 6 weeks away (we hope!).
What shape is the framing for your hood, and what are you thinking for the finish? Val




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Posted by histokitch (My Page) on Mon, May 8, 06 at 19:23

Hey Val--does the 4" gain show up in the oven or in the warming cabinet? Sounds interesting. I've been considering a Volnay so I could have a wall oven. Something else to think about (I'm sure my worn out husband will be thrilled).



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Posted by maringirl (My Page) on Tue, May 9, 06 at 0:44

Histokitch -- The Chambertin oven has the same dimensions as the Sully oven. I looked at the specs for the Volnay on the AC site, but they don't show the oven size. The Chambertin may just have a bigger oven door to compensate for the extra width (if you look at the two drawings on the spec pages, the Chabertin looks like it has a wider oven door than the Volnay). The Chambertin specs are actually grouped with the Fontenay. AC said this model is not ordered very frequently, but it accomodated my wish list.



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Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on Tue, May 9, 06 at 9:16

Hi Maringirl!
About your hood...I have a VAH liner, wood/plaster facade, and no upper cabs. My hood is 36 inches above the cooktop. My range is in an "alcove" so I could get away with the added height. I'm not sure what specs you've been given. The 3" overhang on each side is only a rule of thumb. While performance is important, aesthetics are important, too. You wouldn't want a hood that looks oddly disproportionate to the range.

My range and my hood are the same length, side-to-side. My range is large, so my hood is large. To have gone 3" beyond on each side would have just been too overpowering. I think there are another couple of people who don't have upper cabs and whose hoods are the same length as their ranges. Then there are a couple whose hoods are slightly larger.

Just grab a piece of graph paper. Sketch in your range and lower cabs. Then just cut out different sized hoods and see how the look placed at different heights and widths. That ought to give you a pretty good feel for what will look balanced. You might (or might not) need more CFMs if you decided to go higher off the cooktop.




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Posted by maringirl (My Page) on Tue, May 9, 06 at 10:53

Hi Momto4 -- nice to hear from you! Is your liner 22.5" deep or did you go with a custom liner? I think your range is exactly two times the size of mine -- how many CFM's did you go with? I know I saw a picture of your stunning kitchen when I was picking my range (well over a year ago), but I don't remeber how you finished the band. Did you plaster the whole thing or did you add a decorative element around the band?
Thank you! Val



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Posted by momto4kids (My Page) on Tue, May 9, 06 at 13:01

Val...thanks for the kind words! Yes, my liner is the 22 1/2 " deep one. Actually, I have two 42" liners. I don't even remember the cfms! I'll have to check that and I'll post back. My liner is attached to the wall, then framed around. There is a simple wood band around the bottom portion and stucco on the rest. Here is a picture (not very clear, but at least it shows the hood):
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Is thread 28 the one where we talked a lot about installation of the hood? I do my greasy, smokey, etc, type cooking on my back burners, so I wanted my hood to sit toward the back. Just remember...your range will project from the wall a bit more than what carpenters are used to with most other ranges (because of the back spacer or the island spacer, whichever you chose). If you want your hood to be positioned over the footprint of your range, the hood will need to be mounted out from the wall and not flush on the wall. This is not hard...it just needs to be considered when mounting.

Even though my hood sits back further than what most people would probably prefer, my frame is built out so the outside of my frame lines up with the edge of the range.

I hope I didn't just confuse you!!




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Posted by maringirl (My Page) on Tue, May 9, 06 at 22:54

Momto4kids, thank you so much for the information. I'm glad that the 22.5" liner works for you because AC said they recommend 24" (which is custom, costs more, and worse than that, has a 12 to 14 week lead time). I have gotten wildly different information from VAH about which model to get, everything from a 46" wide 900 CFM to a 52" 1800 CFM(!). My particular range is 43.5", so I'm inclined to go with the 46" for scale as you mentioned. If you don't mind me asking yet MORE questions about it, what material did you use to fill the gap at the front of your hood between the shell and the liner? Is the liner level with the bottom of your shell? Thanks again! Val


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